Free speech works both ways; this little girl is my hero.
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haha. Big discussion about this over at Philosophy of Religion.
She's a pro.
Love that kid 😀
And why do preachers think their message will be any better received by blowing up peoples eardrums?
Because they don't care about reaching people, they care about putting on a big show, parading their religion around, and gaining attention. They have a desperate need to feel validated, and being a "religious warrior" helps maintain the delusion that they're righteous people.
Odd how their scripture specifically warns against such behavior…..
In fact……most of those people would probably prefer others do not join in. The more people subscribe to their beliefs, the less people they can alienate and demonize, and the less special they feel.
Wow, he won't look at her, he's backing away from her… he is legit scared.
Then again I look at her as a future troll of the internet
And it has nothing to do with what he was talking about. Trying to shut someone up because you don't agree with their speech but not offering a better alternative view except to say "shut up" continuously….troll
I agree with +Bearman Cartoons. Yes, she has the right, but she's engaging in the lowest form of discourse. She's not even making a point.
+Bearman Cartoons except that he's the one with a bullhorn not asking if people even want to be spoken to, he's just… over a bullhorn… yelling at people about how they're going to hell unless they subscribe to his dogmatic views. He actually says that your own good worth isn't enough, without god you're going to hell. What a horrible thing to say. He's not trying to have a discussion either or offering an alternative, he explicitly states there is no alternative (unless hell is your bag) so he's not interested in a discussion either so IMO they're on totally even ground. Well that's not true… I think she's on higher ground because she's not screaming at a crowd that didn't ask to be talked to over a bullhorn, she's screaming at the guy who's purposefully out there.
Unfortunate that a girl her age do not know what is respect for others' rights and free expression, far from any matter of religion or politics, is now small and just screams at she do not like, after a while when she grows …….. what she will do?
+Karluna Gonzalez Piña and what respect did the preacher show her? or those around her?
In the very least she should have been taught 1) Respect your elders, and 2) Respect other peoples beliefs. I have friends who are atheist, gay, muslim, witnesses, and so on. I listen to all of them with respect. My parents are Pentecostal pastors and I don't agree with everything they say but I do show them respect. Respect and common courtesy is dead. This little girl is what the bible calls "Generation of Vipers! She actually proved his point. All that was needed was for her to start vomiting split pea soup and for her head to start spinning a 360. SMH!
+Paul Spoerry see your point but I would have preferred her really shut him up by singing highway to hell than what she did haha
+Bearman Cartoons
Now that is funny I must admit! I love that song!
+Paul Spoerry
The problem here is that shouting someone down for exercising their right of free speech does absolutely no good for your side. All it does is make you look like the foolish one and erodes any credibility you may have.
I realize it's just a little girl, but then perhaps she shouldn't be trying to play with the adults. In her case, she seems to me like a child who's parents have zero control over and never taught her to respect others. Of course I'm a little old school when it comes to childrearing. Though my children might say to me, in an aside, that the preacher is a few sandwiches short of a picnic, none of them would act out of line like this.
…..and there will be those who will say that I sound like an old fool with a stick up his backside, and they may not be too far off the mark. 😉
You're an asswipe and that little girl will most probably grow up to be a shameless whore judging by the manners she has been taught
+Bearman Cartoons Yes.. I think that would have been an even better way to go about it.
+Djniraken Vega Elder? That kid look 13 and told a child she'd be going to hell if she doesn't believe what he does. I have friends of many faiths which I do not agree with and I show them respect. They don't however yell at me with a bullhorn. By your own definition he would be the viper… for telling a child she's going to hell for not holding HIS beliefs.
Well said +Paul Snedden!
+West Kagle Yeah, I get that… which is why I said free speech works both ways. And to be fair, she was yelling because he was on an amplified system. If I had to put money on it, I bet her parents were there and were ok with it. If my son, who is extraordinarily well behaved, saw some asshat out spewing vile things like this and wanted to go yell "back" at him and equally exercise his free speech I'd probably let him. (tho to be fair I'd prefer he slay him with logic and facts but he looks a little older than this little girl does).
+Ben Isaac Judging by the fact that your a man and your profile picture is a scantly clad woman in a bathing suit you're the one who lacks decency and manners.
How many ways can you say misogynist?
Actually, yes, I am a masogunist. Thanks for noticing. I also believe women should be dominated by men as it says in Genesis…so how does a picture of a whore make me have no manners or decency?
How many ways can you say moron?
+Paul Spoerry You're a fucking retard, you justify a little girl obnoxiously screaming at someone for their religious views. You're beyond stupid, what did he say that's justifiable as hate? He can say what he wants, you consider a little bratty girl screaming at an adult who in this video has said nothing offensive, you're obviously lost. I wont associate with someone of such low IQ,
+Ben Isaac
I'm fairly sure you can only say it one way, and still have it mean what you intend it to mean. ¬_¬
And then the fight started…
+ShinxXRyu +Paul Spoerry
Looks like we have another YouTube Genius, with the mouth of a drunken sailor. ¬_¬
+Paul Spoerry Actually from this mans point of view he's trying to save you..from her point of view if you say something like 'pokemon suck' your going to be greeted with one of her many articulated comebacks just because she hates you.
+Nikki H
Fair enough.
Freedoms are only free until you stard to abuse it. Regardless if you believe in god or not, this little girl is abusing it to the max. Its clear she has next to no respect for others by her rude and cumbersome attitude.
Freedoms are only free until you stard to abuse it. Regardless if you believe in god or not, this little girl is abusing it to the max. Its clear she has next to no respect for others by her rude and cumbersome attitude.
No matter how you self righteous people get off this girl represents satan and his accusatory customs. where are her parents? Egging her on Im guessing like all you others drinking the demons kool-aid. for shame. With your anger and confusion you dont realize; when you quote these evil child molester priests or evil passages In the bible written by men living thousands of years after the lord jesus christ you somehow come to be comfortable with spiritual wickidness regardless of your faith and measure spiritual wickedness in children is absolutely unacceptable yet under your watch it proliferates you must be swelling with joy helping satan destroy the youth bravo
+West Kagle Good attempt but moron has a meaning that can be expressed using other words.
So…how many ways can YOU say moron? lol
+Tom T
I'm confused……..
……are you bashing the non-religious, or the religious?
+Bliss Morgan ahh it alittle kid. Most people are afraid of little kids with crazy attitudes not defined by what others call logic or reason. Especially if its not their own. Put it simply if I told your kid to scram im sure youd be pissed. Some degenerative people would even go as far as to take legal action to defend the children in a case of overwhelming ego vs virtue (and when I say virtue I mean right cs wrong, dont get it twisted).
+Tom T You are bang on point, couldn't have said it any better. That little BITCH is a demon
+Tom T I'm sure he'd support physical violence against this man for preaching the word of god too, shows how satan has influenced our culture. Free speech apparently, unless you preach the word of god. I find it funny how people get so mad about him saying how we may go to Hell, yet if you dont believe in hell it shouldnt bother you enough to dislike this fact. Whether they want to admit it or not, they know Hell exists and they have a fear of it thats why they have a hostile reaction to being told the truth. They dont want to hear the consequences of their actions, so they want him to be shut up. It's rather pathetic and sad, I bet if he was saying anything else on that corner and the girl approached him they'd take the mans side. But because it's God's word, the girl is justified for being a little brat. Pathetic.
+West Kagle Confused? Yes, that's one way of describing your mind state
+Paul Snedden im sorry but were I grew up all I was taught was respect, i am and i live by my word. I know respect better then most. I dont see how the preacher disrespected any of the people around him or the little girl!
+Ben Isaac
Um………..no. You can say words that have the same meaning as the word moron, but if you say moron any other way besides the way the pronunciation is in the dictionary it no longer is the word moron, and hence, no longer means what you want it to mean in this instance. Get it? 😛
This is what happens to the world when Christians fail to stand up and rise against evil. When did Christians decide to be weak and simple. Christ said be as wise as a serpent, innocent as doves. However, I have never seen a passage in the bible that says do not defend yourselves.
+Ghost7065 I was taught not to force my opinions down other people's throats. The whole argument of "free speech" is a furphy. No one has the right to free speech. You have the right to an opinion, but I sure don't need to listen to it.
+West Kagle Are you sure that's what the expression means? I don't think it's about pronunciation… :-/
+Paul Snedden So then why are you trolling videos about preachers?
If you don't believe in what someone is saying, why don't you fuck off away from them? Why do you feel the need to talk your shit? Does it make you feel superior?
America was built on Christian fundamentals, therefore, a Christian has every right in the book to preach in the street. It doesn't matter what you goys and heathens think, there is nothing you can do about it.
+Ben Isaac +ShinxXRyu +Tom T +Ghost7065
If you look at my first comment, I basically agree with you all about this little girls lack of respect and her parents failing at teaching her thusly. My problem is that you all have a issue with the girl telling the preacher to shit up, while at the same time telling +Paul Spoerry to do the same. 😉
+ShinxXRyu though I agree with a small percentage of what you said. You are acting worse then the little girl by the cslling others retarded (though the littke girl is in the wrong).
+West Kagle We are in NO WAY in the same category as this soon to be cock sucking little whore. A man has the right to defend his belief, even if it means he has to use aggression. Same way you have the right to defend/express yours, as long as that doesn't involve you attacking mine.
So NO, you aren't agreeing with me, I know that much.
+Ghost7065 She's a fucking demon. How old is she and she already wants to attack a man preaching the word of God. I respect him though, he just carried on almost unfazed by her parasitic presence.
+Ben Isaac
Uh……….isn't aggression a form of attack? So if one uses aggression to defend his beliefs, isn't he attacking mine? That would then reduce your statement to what's called a paradox. Or it that oxymoron? If moron is what we think it means. I feel like we went over this before. Ah hell, now I lost my place. Look, lets start from the top. How many ways can one say moron?
+Ben Isaac I'd highly suggest that you not only take a look at who you're speaking to but also the facts about your country. I'm Australian, and America was not "founded on Christian principles".
+Ben Isaac and you call yourself virtues? The devil and god do not control ever action we do. God gave us all free will and we can choose what we want with it.
This little girls lack of respect comes from ignorance not a lack of faith. As for God, God is in our ever day actions whether it be words or thought or motions. God will not loves based on how much coin we place on a tray or how many times we go to church. Those are the thoughts of a flawed man and a false saint.
Dont respond back because im blocking you.
Wow. Saying "free speech works both ways" is one thing- but saying that a snotty, immature, bratty little girl is your "hero"? Lol That's just ignorant.. and unbelievably pathetic.
+Paul Snedden every one has a right to free speech up untill you start to offend or harm someone else. Most confuse frees speech with oppinions and though there are many of those all around (and no disrespect to you personally) theres is right and wrong in this world. This little girl is in the wrong bue to her behavior towards another human being.
+Paul Spoerry
Well, I usually end up fighting with lunatics because of something I posted. This is the first time I got into a brawl on someone else's thread. It's been a grand time, but I've wasted enough time on nonsense, and I've got to go and clean the cat boxes now. Talk to ya later. ;P
+Brian Hartman Exactly. I'm simply amazed at some of the moronic responses here.
+West Kagle I said that Never to paul. I simply spokem my feelings based on what I saw as flawed. I never once disrespect the man for his.
+Ben Isaac you sir are so confused it is funny how many think they are on the side of christ yet they spew satans venom, shame on you.
+Tom T Says the man with the illuminati eye symbolism for an avatar. I have respect for satan to a certain extent. Respect that he is brave and stupid enough to try to even think he can oppose God.
If and when Christ returns, he will not be soft and gentle, he will lay down the law by the sword and destruction. Make no mistake about it. Christians will have to be aggressive and brutal if they even think they have a chance against the evil in this world.
+Djniraken Vega she did what everyone should do to street preachers. we all know where to get feed bullshit if we want it and don't need people like him with his amplifier's and microphone telling US about HIS god. respect goes both ways. if he wasn't there blabbing his mouth nor would of she.
KEEP THY GOD TO YOURSELF!
Are you fucking kidding? Respect??! Lmao
+wanafly12 First of all learn proper gramma. Secondly, it's a megaphone or bull horn, not a microphone. Thirdly, why don't you fuck off and leave believers alone
+Ben Isaac I sense the christians your with are the same ones who stalk choirboys and support gays and abortions a.k.a. satans christians.
+Ben Isaac as far as my pic it is a self portrait and google automatically just selected that portion
+Ben Isaac She's just a kid. I don't think she needs to be upgraded to demon status. 🙂 She's obviously learned this behavior somewhere. I'm guessing it was from her parents. They think they're raising a freethinker, but when she grows up, she won't be able to think her way out of a paper bag, if that's how she's being taught.
I'm not defending the street preacher. He's a schmuck. But she's just a smaller version of a schmuck with the easy she's behaving.
+Nikki H HIS belief in what he's doing doesn't make him any less of an asshole. If he was yelling Islamic shit over an amp powered system people would be all up in arms.
+Ghost7065 I can see how it seems that way, but IMO she's less disrespectful; she's only yelling at him… he's yelling at everyone.
+Tom T Satan doesn't exist so your argument is invalid. And before you say but but but… show ONE single piece of evidence to the contrary (and not some book that's been poorly translated and was written long after the supposed events took place).
+ShinxXRyu Hilarious you won't "associate" yet you comment on this post, thereby associating yourself. LOL.
+Ben Isaac … wow your so full of hate. It must suck to be you. So small on the inside that you have to make women lesser, get aggressive with others (ironically while proclaiming some religious superiority). Oh, and you're dumb. It's misogynist. I LITERALLY spelled it for you one comment above where you misspelled it.
"First of all learn proper gramma." Do you not realize that you didn't use proper grammar, not did you spell grammar correctly?
"Secondly, it's a megaphone or bull horn, not a microphone." Actually, he's talking into a microphone.
"Thirdly, why don't you fuck off and leave believers alone" Um you can leave any time you'd like. Nobody came to YOUR post and commented.
+Seven Ten It may be immature but not pathetic. Pathetic is believing in a mythical thing and then standing around with a mic telling everyone else they have to believe it. And yes I can say that here because it's my thread and I didn't come to this guys thread and make that comment. Why do religious people think just because THEY believe it they have the right to be rude and loudly blast it through a community space, knock on others doors, etc?! I mean I know why, they think they're doing the rest of us a favor. But if a satanist did that the same Christians defending this man would be all up in arms. Again, this isn't the same thing as that either, you had to click play to even hear it, and you had to read a lot to see others comments. You chose to engage with the content. Someone making their religious literature available in a public space is one thing… yelling it over a mic is something entirely different.
+Paul Spoerry This little girl is your hero? Low standards.
+Paul Spoerry I wouldn't, and my kids wouldn't either. I've walked past plenty that I have found insulting and just walked on by teaching my children to do the same. The fact that you're able to come up with an argument to defend this girls aggression should also in turn be able to counter it in favor of the preacher man. He obviously took the high road in this situation allowing this little girl to throw her fit.
+Paul Spoerry also if I may add the man did not yell at anyone he used an aperatice to enhance his words. Same as my teachers. If I were to up to them an do the same I would have been kicked out of class.
Your hero is an immature little girl acting like a brat. My hero is the almighty all loving creator. Don't get your logic
Yes, there is a thing called freedom and free speech… There is also something called respect and dignity.
+Paul Spoerry If your looking for proof satan exists your eyes must be shut so tightly no one could open them for you my friend the blue pills youve been taking are keeping you just where they want you so keep drinking the kool aid and the coke and the fluoride water and say to yourself satan and jesus dont exist, you see the reason I cannot prove to you simplistically Is because satan Is many many countless bodies including your own currently and jesus is but one trying to Shepard his flock away from these wolves who replicate like a virus please do tell when youve spoken your last word and left your last breath will your soul feel like it fought a good fight and deserves to move upward or would you still then in ethereal form deny such things and linger in denial
+Ben Isaac couldnt have said it better my self! stupid demon, along with the other blind fools commenting! AMEN!
You poor blind man, you have NO ability to see that what is driving your little hero is a foul demon that will govern her life until he drags her to the pit of hell. Keep ignoring the truth and you'll be sorry, demons exist but they keep people so blind they can't see past their noses. Bu I'll be praying that you get proof of what I'm talking about very soon and then you'll remember me and I hope it will help you turn to the ONLY ONE WHO SAVES!
No, it's definitely pathetic that a bratty, disrespectful little girl is your hero. And that you think it's perfectly okay for a child to act that way. The man's preaching may be annoying or rude to you or other non-believers, but he isn't being hateful toward anyone. That little girl is. Others are free to walk away from him if they don't want to listen to him. That little girl is directly attacking him. He wasn't up in her face calling her a sinner or telling her to shut her mouth and listen to him. Him speaking openly to whomever happens to walk by, no matter how rude or annoying someone might find it, is NOT the same as him going up to an individual and yelling at that individual in a snotty, demeaning and hateful manner. I can't even believe so many people here are dense enough to try and compare the two behaviors. As others here have pointed out- in a much less hateful manner than most of the know-it-all, more "rational" non-believers, ironically, this isn't just about religious beliefs… that little girl has a shitty attitude and her behavior is completely inappropriate. And the more assholes like you praise her for it, the worse it will get as she gets older. There must be someone in this world you actually give a shit about. So does it bother you in the least to think about that person being treated that way by the 17-year old version of that girl… or the 40-year old male version of your "hero"? Or will you just tell the person you care about so much to 'get over it' because they are the heroic types of people who put obnoxious, loud Christians in their place?
+Seven Ten So telling someone they're going to hell for just being born isn't disrespectful? Being told you're a naturally sinful and horrible person isn't disrespectful? You should look up the definition of the word, you sound like an idiot.
Was he up in anyone's face directing those comments at them with a hateful, demeaning tone of voice? No, you fucking idiot! Go drink a gallon a flouride, get a vaccination, jerk of to some raunchy porn with all your hip atheist buddies and stick your head back in the sand… or whatever moronic tv reality show it is that had numbed all your logical and critical thinking skills.
+Seven Ten well said – something to be learned in this girls words.
+Izzazzo I really try to keep my composure because responses like the one I just posted only make me look as hateful and uneducated as the people I'm responding to… But shit, man- I cannot believe so many people are honestly this dumbed down and ignorant! To the extent that it doesn't matter how rational or polite my response is, they'll never 'get it' so what's the stinkin' point?! It's freakin' ridiculous.
Oh sister how I hear you…….loud and clear!
+Roy Wallace is so confused about religeon you see christains today are different than a few hundred years ago but the ones going around raping people and murdering and accusing people of being sinners from birth are clearly not of jesus christ he teaches every child is innocent until an adult and even wicked sinners he doesn't see as horrible he is forgiveness and he is love the stereotype your thinking of is actually a type of devil worshipper pretending to be Christian
+Seven Ten yes yes yes I will be laughing for days omg… much respect
+Tom T The Bible says the wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. (Psalm 58:3)
There are no innocent children but all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. (Rom 3:23) There is no age of accountability in the Bible. That is a teaching of some churches but the Bible knows nothing of it. Everybody deserves hell unless they are justified by the faith of Jesus Christ. All must repent or perish. Your destination is either heaven or hell. Your father is either Satan of Jehovah. Choose you this day whom you will serve. As for me and my house we will serve the Lord.
that girl is a little demon child
+Tom T The character Jesus, who most likely never existed, said to love a god who killed countless children in the Bible and instructed to kill countless more.
+Matthew Simpson again your taking a book written mostly before he was born partly after he died transcribed Into many different languages over thousands of years by thousands of people, Not Jesus…and jesus teaches obviously to not kill children, god didnt kill people, people killed people- its called murder
+Matthew Simpson you are Evil or stupid, or both. Wisdom comes to those who pray for truth from our Sovereign Creator God. Fool's fall for the lies that are of this world. His kingdom is forever.
+Matthew Simpson invite jesus christ into your life if it doesnt change your life making it amazing and worth loving every second- no worries…satan will accept you back into wickedness and you can think of more weak excuses to be a wicked spirit.
Let's see if the little girl can save you from eternal hell.
+Cheryl Meril no hell no worry. so she'll save no one from nothing.
+Cheryl Meril hell doesn't exist, it was invented by the early Christian church to keep people scared and obedient.
Both have eqaul rights to free speech, but who is using free speech for knowledge and who is the one using free speech for blurting crass ignorance.
And this girl is your hero .. Did this girl suffer and die on cross like Jesus Christ. No she didn't. She wouldn't be able to handle that pain. And honestly I think you yourself wouldn't be able to handle what Jesus Christ did for us, so we wouldn't be slaves to big governments like the Romans, British, etc.
So think again, this obnoxious girl is your hero, than the man who healed the sick, the blind, the dead, and enlightened us on our ability to control our consciousness and third eye.
If you are going to practice Freedom of Speech, then at least do it in an intelligent way where yoh help others for the greater good. Not like this girl just abusing the law to be crass and arrogant.
Everyone has the right to Free Speech, but are they using it for intelligence or ignorance.
+Bliss Morgan Well, religion is actually pretty fragile. He has to walk away.
We are so worried about a girl and a preacher were forgetting nuclear energy is destroying the planet corporations are destroying the forests the aquifers the rivers the oceans and the skies it is a dark age for the earth as she sighs at us humans before we destroy ourselves in the next hundred years all too pre occupied with each others petty differences than the sustainability of our species only hope. God bless.
+Tom T Learn to punctuate.
+Tom T Nuclear energy is pretty efficient, actually.
Your limited understanding of the legal rights to free speech is my hero. The world needs more illiterates to feed the corporate machines, daily.
+Bliss Morgan He isn't scared. He just simply recognizes that she's just a little girl. He backs away to get her out of his ear.
+Dr Society Get her out of his ear?
Tell me, who is the one with a megaphone?
+Brian Hartman As opposed to the street preacher, who is making such valid points.
+BohemianBlasphemy hahhahahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha never have I laughed so hard…seriously though spent energy cells stockpiling only safe in containment for a hundred years. built reactors on fault lines and all main rivers …the grid goes out…the world goes into nuclear holocaust….yeah but its safe basically…besides the will for sure destroy the planet warning labels
using her free speech to tell someone else they can't use theirs.. that makes sense Paul. (sarcasm) you're all hypocrites, do you understand a word called toleration and equality you people always throw around when it suits you ?
fool
+Ben Isaac Turn the other cheek that's what he's doing and rightly so. She too will be judged.
+sirLamperouge I'm not saying his gibberish is true. But she's not refuting it. The proper response to someone spouting gibberish is to either ignore them or to put up an argument. All she's doing is adding to the noise.
YOU LIE!
+TNN – Truth News Network I knew you'd use that turn the other cheek scripture. Jesus never said lay down and die. He did say be competent though.
There is nothing wrong with defending the faith. I think Christ knew the day of persecution will come upon Christians and if just sit there turning the other cheek then the enemy would have erased the faith a long time ago.
The flesh dies and rots away, the spirit does not. "Fear not the death of the flesh" is what Christ told us. He knew we would have to fight one day…
Shut up idiot no one wants to hear your crap! Now I am your hero.
Your absolutely right about that, freedom of speech works both ways, but if that little girl got in my face talking all that, her face would be in the concrete period!
+Naremore Ct And you would be arrested for child abuse and assault. Want a fucking cookie, knuckle-dragger?
+Bliss Morgan I'd be backing away, in fear i'd accidentally punch her parents in the head!
mmmkk…if you say so…we would let the cops be the judge of that bruh.
You guys all crack me up… almost as much as this little girl.
Glad your entertained!
+Naremore Ct Yea, keep telling yourself that "cops" wouldn't mind you slamming a young girl's face into concrete.
Are you high? Were your parents siblings? Do you have an extra chromosome? Honestly, if you have some kind of mental handicap let me know; I'll stop laughing at you.
you mad bro??? lol. I'm just telling you what would happen if she got in my face, and your going on a tantrum..you need to check yourself.
+Naremore Ct Pointing out the inane and overly violent quality of your actions is not a "tantrum," child.
In fact, "putting someone's face into the concrete" would qualify as a tantrum long before my highlighting your stupidity ever would.
That said, go; attack little girls. I doubt the world would weep to lose you to prison.
Your making me laugh! dude your kid is an asshole, and, of course an adult isn't going to hurt your bratty kid, I'm all for kicking the shit outta the parents! (you)
+michelle 1972 …who the fuck are you babbling at? This video is from YouTube, no one here is her parent.
Either way, I fail to see how she's the one being an asshole. It's okay for him to scream at people through a megaphone, but she's not allowed to tell him to shut up?
Get a grip.
+michelle 1972 thank you for your statement above, and having common sense unlike +Daniel Carelli is probably the parent of that child. lol
+michelle 1972 duuuuuude… a) clever name adding your birthdate on there. Do you make it part of your password as well? 2) As +Daniel Carelli pointed out this is clearly not my video but one I linked from YouTube C) If that was a viable threat on me know that I'm a black belt in TDK with multiple national titles and a gold sash in Citong Kung Fu and Sanda so think before you act. That said, I know it's easy to act tough on the Internet particularly when you don't even have your face on your profile picture.
+Daniel Carelli Exactly. Because it's what they believe they think it's acceptable for him to do that. Guarantee if it was someone talking about the message of the Koran they'd be all cheering the little girl on. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.
+Naremore Ct …….I'm a gay 25 year old in Philadelphia; if I have a daughter in salem it's news to me; given her age I would say it's unlikely.
I love that the complete lack of logical basis behind your comments leads you to fall back on childish personal attacks and school-yard insults when challenged. That doesn't speak highly of your intelligence.
Thanks for the free entertainment, whelp; but it's time for you to join the other troglodytes on my block list.
+Paul Spoerry That's a frequent argument of mine, actually.
Whenever I'm faced with people defending their (or another) right to publicly preach, I simply ask them how they would feel about me standing on a street corner passing out The Satanic Bible, or venerating the qualities of Satanic religions.
Most of them say they would be offended, appalled, and would feel the need to stand up and "confront" me. I've had some tell me they would yell over me.
The double standard is delicious.
+Daniel Carelli aww he blocked me…shouldn't I have blocked him since he commented on my first initial comment that wasn't towards anybody.. you might have been challenged by a street preacher before and he made you look like a fool, so now your cheering on anybody who disrespects them like this little girl did. Thanks for the block!
lol; feel free to find a Christian who can outwit me. I've been studying various world religions since I was old enough to read, most street preachers don't know half as much about their own religion as I do.
Last time I checked, people who hold literal beliefs about talking bushes and world-wide floods aren't in a position to make anyone but themselves look like fools.
Kinda like yourself, actually….
there is two sides to every story. Non believers scream dont shove it down our throat, yet fail to see that they are doing the same exact thing by shoving their non beliefs down christians throats in every aspect of life even law. Two wrongs dont make a right in this debate
+PANAMHIEST Yea, that argument ignores the facts.
This girl didn't travel to his Church to tell him to shut up, he was screaming over a megaphone in a public place.
Not even comparable at all.
If a Christian goes out of their way to get in my face with their beliefs, my telling him to shut up is not the same. I didn't ask him to come up to me, or to lecture me about scripture.
I'm sure people in this public square didn't request he stand and scream at them, so they have not gone out of their way to be in the position to tell him to be silent.
If she was traveling around with a megaphone talking shit on Christianity that would be a comparable situation, but that's not what happened.
She can stand on the corner and spew a buncha nonsense too if she wishes
+PANAMHIEST …….That's nice. She didn't, so that's irrelevant to the conversation.
she can so it is relevant, but instead she choose to show intolerance
Daniel, your such a fucking liar! So, you started studying religion since you were old enough to read? Bullshit. I seriously doubt if you started studying religion when you were 4 or 5 years old. But, I could be wrong. Maybe you are just a retard that didn't learn to read until your adult years.
+Rick Nunya …..I couldn't really give two shits what you doubt. My mother was a Comparative World Religion professor, so yes; from the time I was able to read I was enjoying books about various religions from across the world. Some kids read BOB books and "see spot run." I read books about Devas, Greek Mythology, and Zoroastrianism. Believe it or not, there are books about religion written for all age groups.
Maybe you should base your arguments on facts instead of your uninformed conjecture? Might lend you a little more credibility. Couldn't possibly give you any less, that's for sure!
WE can deduct that the bible was wrong in many aspects, it is after all written by men in a time when men knew very little in regards to science and evolution, the galaxy etc. I can understand believing in a god and even a messiah, but neither has ever written a book of lies, deception and hate filled texts of manipulation. Like the Koran/Quran however you want to call it, supposedly a god wrote this book and gave it to Muhammad through an angel named gabriel. Ha Gabriel of them all! But of course The angel that is suppose to be a sender of good news sends the Koran. How fittingly retarded in itself, but on with the fairy tale. In it there is a passage that states (Koran 8.12). God instructs his Muslim followers to kill unbelievers, to capture them, to ambush them (Koran 9.5). Everything contributes to advancing the holy goal: "Strike terror into God's enemies, and your enemies" (Koran 8.60) So in other words this god created muslims, and obviously gave them an enemy and this enemy is much much stronger to boot. Gabriel and his good news huh? Makes zero sense at all, till you realize who Muhammad was as a person. When those who opposed him, and his stories of visits with Gabriel, he got angry and dragged the region in a war lasting 8 years and culminated with him overthrowing the city of mecca. You can find more in depth history if you wish, but that fact alone proves the type of person he was, and of course his warmongering book. In the bible, we have the bashing of baby heads on rocks Psalm 137:9 and other passages trite with war, bloodshed, favor playing and clearly obvious favoritism of men over women, even in the new testament. Both books are nonsense gibberish of fanatical sociopath men bent on controlling others for power and wealth, who used the deepest psyche of the mankinds yearning and desire to know what, who and where we come from as a way to manipulate us, and in Muhammad case, play out his agenda of brutal dominance. Simple as that
dont get me wrong though i do believe in god and that we had a messiah according to certain roman historians but i have nothing but disdain for these books the bible, the quran and the religions that stemmed from them with the exception of johns gospel. You can have beliefs without becoming psychos and following other psychos lol. I just try to live as Jesus wanted us to. i refuse to partake in man written books or man created religions. To me all the whole lot of bible/koran thumpers are fanatical religious zealots tricked and manipulated by the very worse psychosis of mind control. Christians have proved it in the past, and the islamic muslims are doing it now. i am tolerant however and would never go around at any point in society and tell people to bash baby heads or kill yonder infidels, and judge those who dont follow the big bad nono's well because i said so or these here books said so. There is so much failure in the logic of both books, only the spiritually desperate and already brainwashed would fall for it. Evil of all natures is best served by these books. Sorry but it is true, history and today, modern times, ancient times proves it. I struggled in my conversion to agnostic theist, because frankly i love Jesus. There is no other way to put it. He is not the man that the bible and the opposition perpetuate him to be. All that garbage in the old testament, everything that christians did long after the death of Jesus, the text in Corinthians that favor men over women. This is not an accurate way by which to judge a belief of who and what Jesus represented and i understand that by virtue of belief instead of religion or books. All that was wrong was caused by "religion". To me belief is greater, far greater then religion. Jesus in my eyes was someone, perhaps sent from god, to show the world the way. Nothing about the man in any way defined evil, malice, contempt, injustice, hatred. etc. He somehow managed to exude perfection, everything we wish we we were. And he was crushed, destroyed, flogged, mocked, spat on, cursed then nailed to a cross and killed, all by religious fanatics. I despise religion. It has ruined this earth and people. it destroyed the best thing that ever happened to us, and god hasnt looked back since. Alot of people now hate Jesus without knowing him and really it is a shame because of religion and these fail books. All you got to do is believe, even if your gay or said a bad word or did something wrong in your life. this sense that your condemned is born of fear, religious fanatics, lack of understanding, stupidity really. The man never had a bad word for anyone is my belief of him. Forget the book, forget billy freaking graham joel fat pockets osteen, focus on what Jesus is. If people can do that, they would understand why i left behind religion just for simple belief, no following of mens books like the bible or quran
I'm sorry…was that "speech" coming from the little imp? Both ways? You mean where a man wanted to bring a message to people he felt was important and someone was shouting hem down? He went to a public space not occupied by another and tried to have a discourse. If she did not like what this man was saying she could have moved on. If she wanted to have a discourse she could have taken her own space instead of acting like a …well, child! Where was this child's parents? I can only imagine what she's being taught at home. This child is more than doomed to misery in her life.
Liberal parenting. Have their children be human shields for them and do their dirty work. Paul Spoerry, free speech isn't about trying to silence someone else and taking their freedom of speech away from them. You sure wouldn't think I would have the right to come and silence you, would ya?
+Bliss Morgan Wrong…he's respecting her even though she's not respecting him. Admirable!
+Leo S Clearly you don't understand how freedom of speech works.
Calling someone an idiot for their beliefs doesn't "silence" them. It doesn't "take away their freedom." Nothing is stopping this man from continuing to scream his nonsense through a megaphone.
Just as he has every right to be annoying, she has every right to call him out for being annoying.
Go back to school, or read the Constitution. Your understanding is limited, and frankly pathetic.
No clearly you don't know how freedom of speech works, you idiot. I never said anything about calling anyone an idiot, you got that you little idiot? I said no one has the right to TRY and take another person's freedom of speech away from them, we clear on that, you idiot? It's your choice to allow me or anyone else to annoy you, got that too you little idiot? If you don't like what I got to say, you can choose not to listen to it, and walk away. But you don't got the right to tell me to shut up, try and shout me down, understand you idiot? If you don't like what someone else has to say or their beliefs you are free to preach whatever religion you like. You also don't have the right to verbally assault anyone either, you get that, idiot? Now why don't you go back to school.
"Free speech works both ways; this little girl is my hero."
And if this was a 12 year old boy yelling at a group of protesting pro abortion women to "keep their legs closed" and "stop murdering babies", he'd be your hero too, right?
+Leo S Telling someone to shut up, calling them an idiot, etc. It doesn't fucking matter. These things do not "silence" people or "take away their freedom of speech," so your argument is moronic.
I have every right to tell you to shut up. In fact, I'm going to do it right now:
Shut. The fuck. Up.
+sean m That's not free speech. That's verbal assault. Free speech would be that little girl finding her own street corner and preaching her parents socialist agenda and how we're all mutant fish that crawled out of the ocean. Another thing that guy may have not been just some harmless street preacher. He could have just as easily have been a paranoid schizophrenic with a knife ready to gut her like a mutant fish. Child neglect and endangerment. Extremely bad parenting all around.
"verbal assault" is protected by freedom of speech, you drooling fucking moron.
No it isn't dumbass, it's a criminal offense. I went to law school.
lol. Where, fucking Russia?
Telling someone to shut up is not against the law. You are even more of an idiot than you appear if you think it is.
That said, have fun trying to sue me for calling you an inbred waste of flesh.
+Daniel Carelli You fucking lying Troll.
+Rick Nunya Oh no. Some faceless twat on the internet called me names. What ever am I going to do?!
Feel free to cite a law illegalizing the act of telling people to shut up. I've got all day, sport.
+Leo S No shit! Danny boy has got to be the dumbest lying troll out here.
+Rick Nunya Again, if I am such a "liar" than prove me wrong.
Cite a law making the act of telling people to shut up illegal.
Of course that law doesn't exist, but I'm willing to humor you. 🙂
well you can have that little brat!
+Karluna Gonzalez Piña She's allowed freedom of expression too, I think.
Telling someone to shut up isn't illegal. She would have to threaten him for it to be illegal. At least, in the US. In other countries, YMMV.
that's a low bar there.
OP – So, the annoying guy with the bullhorn is yelling at people and that bothers you, yet little girl takes the same approach with him and she's a hero? Hypocrite.
+Wrecks Man with bullhorn went out of his way to yell at multiple people who did not ask for his opinion to be shouted at them.
Girl responded by yelling at him alone.
One person put themselves in the position and was annoying multiple people
The other was put into the position and yelled at a single person, who was the very person who put her in the position to begin with.
To claim those two situations are comparable is absurd. If he hadn't taken it upon himself to go out and aggressively "save people's souls," he wouldn't have been there for her to tell him to shut up to begin with.
The bottom line is this:
Any argument one can make supporting this preachers right to spout religion on the street could just as easily be applied to defend her right to tell him to shut up.
+Asbjørn Grandt "Love that kid 😀 And why do preachers think their message will be any better received by blowing up peoples eardrums?"
How do you not see the hypocrisy in this statement? Little girl yelling at guy to shut up, and you "love that kid", yet guy doing the same thing is a jerk?
::sigh::
+Daniel Carelli Both approaches are ineffective and annoying. Yet the little girl is a hero. LOL ok man.
+Wrecks See above, kiddo; your argument is invalid.
She did not travel to his home, his church, etc to tell him to shut up. He put himself in the position by traveling to a public place and screaming through a megaphone.
His "religious freedom" doesn't protect him from people telling him to shut up.
Both approaches are ineffective and annoying, and yet one is blatantly more-so and required him to go out of his way to accomplish it. Honestly, get some perspective.
+PANAMHIEST "Non believers scream dont shove it down our throat, yet fail to see that they are doing the same exact thing by shoving their non beliefs down christians throats in every aspect of life even law."
Except that you can't cram non-belief down anyone's throat because there is a lack of anything to cram. Anyone not already of that faith that objects to it (believer or of any other faith) simply wishes that others beliefs not be pushed on them. Christians flipped the fuck out when a Mosque wanted to go up at ground zero… don't sit there and try to play the "we're the persecuted few" card because that's flatly not the case.
+Leo S stop being disingenuous; if you're really an attorney you'd know that it has to come with the perceived threat of " imminent harmful or offensive contact." You can't even consider this intimidation because as several people backing this dude up have pointed out he just kept on talking. You might be able to argue it was verbal abuse (as an attorney you should know that specificity is very important in legal manners) since she did attempt to undermine, trivialize, and resort to name calling. Then again she could use that same argument as he was also name calling, clearly discounting anyone else's feelings on the manner, accusing anyone not subscribing to his personal set of beliefs as evil and that stating they'd go to hell for it (which would also fall under threatening).
Verbal Assault: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Verbal+assault
Verbal Threats as Assault: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/verbal-threats-as-assault.html
Intimidation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intimidation
Verbal Abuse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbal_abuse
+sean m "And if this was a 12 year old boy yelling at a group of protesting pro abortion women to "keep their legs closed" and "stop murdering babies", he'd be your hero too, right?"
First of all, this wasn't a protest it was one guy so that's not even really the same discussion. If it was a group of people protesting I'd feel differently about them. Though not necessarily any different about the little girl. Additionally, if it was a group of people protesting and they were using amplifying devices (like this guy) and had setup a booth (like this guy) they would, in all likelihood, require permits to be there. I seriously doubt he has any permits… but that's not really the point.
If ONE pro-abortion person were standing on the sidewalk and some kid came up and yelled the same way I don't know that I'd go so far as 'hero', but I'd certainly think the kid was just as funny.
+Daniel Carelli Um, my argument is perfectly valid. They are both in a public place. I never said anything about freedom. They both have the freedom to yell at people like idiots. Why do people keep playing the freedom card? Nobody here is arguing that they don't both have freedom of speech. The point is whether this girl acting in the same way as the guy is worthy of being called a hero.
"Both approaches are ineffective and annoying, and yet one is blatantly more-so and required him to go out of his way to accomplish it." – So she is a hero for being less annoying? Gotcha. Whatever you say. You must have pretty low standards for a hero.
+Daniel Carelli Typical LibTard. I didn't say telling someone to "Shut Up" is illegal. But there are plenty of Verbal abuse laws out there. Maybe not in MA.
+Rick Nunya …none of which would apply to this video or this conversation. Soooooo come back when you have an actual point worth making.
+Rick Nunya I find it funny you make a statement about verbal abuse, and turn right around and use 'LibTard'. Name calling falls under Verbal Abuse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbal_abuse
http://definitions.uslegal.com/v/verbal-abuse/
+Paul Spoerry I agree with you Paul. That's why Rick Nunya is my hero.
+Paul Spoerry Haha. I wouldn't worry about it. I'm a gay Satanist…anyone who thinks I qualify as either "liberal" or "conservative" doesn't know enough about me to talk.
I have views which would be considered communism, or even flat-out anarchy; I have others that would qualify as fascist or tyrannical.
People need to try and fit people like me into little boxes because that's all they know. I'm hardly offended by it. I find it more funny than anything else.
it's like when people call Obama a "Socialist Nazi" and shit; it's just…..bad comedy.
Let me see your Little "Hero" heckle a Muslim Preacher… 🙂
she is not expressing free speech. She is demanding him to shut up. Telling other people what to do is not practicing free speech. if he had told her to shut up, then he would no longer be practicing free speech. This is the problem, people do not separate the two forms of speech. There is a difference between a statement and a command.
+julsandthefatman …..He is also telling people what to do. He's telling them their behavior is sinful, and they must act according to his beliefs or face an eternity of punishment in hell.
If he has a right to tell people how to live their lives, she has a right to tell him to shut his mouth.
Again, your double-standards are not going to win you any arguments among thinking people; theistic or atheistic alike.
What, pray-tell, would you consider the myriad of rules and restrictions laid out in the bible if not "commands?"
Last time I checked they are literally called the 10 Commandments, champ.
+Daniel Carelli Actually no…he's not scared at all…he just chooses to not acknowledge satan. It's amazing how many people on here have NO CLUE and only spew more satanic filled hate….You're all like a bunch of sheep following each other off the cliff. It's that crowd mentality. I feel like I'm back in high school where every one dresses the same and they think they're cool, when in fact they're just mimicking everyone around them instead of using their brain to figure out whats real and true. It's absolutely ironic and hysterical at what this little hate filled brat says…"no one listens"…and yet ALL OF YOU, over 55,000 ~ so far~ HAVE LISTENED!
a person with a message, regardless of what it is, is not telling someone what to do and yelling at them to shut up. That is the difference. She could have walked away. no one was yelling at her. She was yelling at him. Trying to get him to shut up. You honestly do not see the difference? liberals say "you don't like what's on TV? then shut it off" and they are right. Christians trying to censor TV are wrong. You can't tell someone what they can say or can not say. Getting in peoples' faces and yelling at them to shut up is the beginning of verbal assault. She just did not cross that line. Give her a few years and there maybe police involved.
+Summer Day I absolutely agree with you!
This girl is amazing.
+Summer Day
Actually no…he's not scared at all…he just chooses to not acknowledge Satan.
HAH. That's a riot, since he seems obsessed with Satan, Sins and the allegedly "evil" behavior of other people. Sounds to me like he is very afraid; if he wasn't, he wouldn't feel such a drive to "save people's souls." Why would souls need saving if he didn't consider the alternative a threat?
I'm not sure who you believe I'm "mimicing." I do not base my opinions on those of others, so kindly do not project your modus operandi onto me. You may be a simple-minded sheep, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world is. Not sure what you rest of your inane ranting has to do with this conversation, so I'll just go ahead and ignore you now.
For someone who thinks we're all under the influence of "Satan," you certainly don't seem to have the slightest clue what that word even means.
+Daniel Carelli IT's not his right, to tell anyone anything.. It's the facts.. To think that You are the center of the universe, is laughable.. To deny that there's a higher power out there, is also laughable.. Tho I can't laugh too hard, even raised as a Christian, I had trouble believing when I couldn't see 'God'.. Then I overdosed on my pain meds, after becoming addicted, and my life dwindling in sin, through all the lies I had to tell, to hide the addiction..
While no longer breathing, and time ticking away with the chances of resuscitation slipping further away,..what I experienced, changed my life forever.. Firstly, the second chance I was given, after being under, not breathing for that long, is a miracle.. What 'Glimpse' I was given, assured me one thing, if you sin in life, YOU goto the most evil place in death.. The Things there, sound and 'feel like' the concentrated hate & rage from the world over, all rolled into one entity that's there awaiting you in death.. The more some unseen Force kept this thing from getting to me, the louder it raged.. Finally I was given a 'window' back into reality, I was able to see my sister looking at my floor, with her Bf holding her up, as her legs were buckling while she was balling.. I realized later, I was looking at her while she was looking down at my floor,..where my lifeless body was still lying, with the paramedics trying to resuscitate me.
It doesn't matter what you 'choose' to believe in, in life.. What awaits us all, in the afterlife, believes in you, me, and everyone else.. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled, was to convince the world he didn't exist.. I had a rude awakening that night.., for he and his minions are very real..
IF that wasn't miracle enough,..14 specialist doctors agreed I would be dead in 3 months, in 2007, when on top of the worst Crohns flareup I'd ever had, dropping my weight to only 97 LBS., I developed not one, but two deadly infections that are resistant to our strongest antibiotics in western medicine, MRSA & V.R.E.
ONE of those infections can kill a normally healthy person, and I had two.. Prayer saved me..
I flipped a van off the interstate at 80 mph, hit a tree on the driver's door & frame, crushing it in to the console, yet, after the van stopped flipping, and landed upright, I found the strength to rip the door open myself, which would normally need the Jaws of Life, to cut the door off.. I walked away from that accident without one single cut.
I could go on & on, as my life has been one long series of miracles, basically since birth.. Just cuz you don't believe, doesn't believe God doesn't believe in you..
+steven laughs
God saves you and yet untold numbers of innocent children get murdered, raped, sold into slavery, or forced to live lives of constant abuse.
Riiiiiiight.
Can't wait for your "God works in mysterious ways" counter.
if you knew the bible Peter Michael, you would know the REAL answer to that…and "God works in mysterious ways" is not it.
+steven laughs Yea, I don't know who the hell you're responding to, but nothing you say has any relation to anything I've said.
It is his right to say whatever he wants within the bounds of law. His religious beliefs are not "truth," they are claims. I didn't not claim to be "the center of the universe." I also did not deny the existence of a "higher power" or divinity. Frankly, I'm not really interested in your come-to-jesus story, I've heard it all before. This discussion is not about my views on god, or anyone else's. It's about a street preacher being told to shut up. Stay on topic.
You're just asserting that there are Christians and people who don't know they're Christians. Your claims are ignorant, illogical, and contrary to the facts. Christianity is not the only "true" or "valid" religion, and your perceptions of god and religion are not obligatory for the rest of humanity. There are countless other religions with their own gods, pantheons, and beliefs; many of which predate Judeo-Christianity by thousands of years.
In short; I don't really care what you think about god. I didn't ask you; just as the people in this Salem sqare did not ask this young man to scream his beliefs at them through a loudspeaker. If you defend his right to tell people how to live their lives, you must also defend her right to tell him to shut up. Otherwise, you're just a hypocrite using double-standards to excuse selfish behvaior.
I've been gone all day. What did I miss? 😛
+Seven Ten The man is using a speaker system, he doesn't NEED to get in anyone's face. However, since his voice is drowning out even the little girl's scream, I'm sure he offended way more people than she did. You have absolutely no leg to stand on in this argument, so might wanna also check the definition of 'idiot'.
+steven laughs First of all, I'm very glad you got sober and lived. I legitimately mean that. I've visited friends in the hospital, at rehab, and put a couple in the ground. So it is with the utmost compassion that I saw that I'm glad you found a way for you to have your life without addiction.
That said, while you may attribute your recovery to a supernatural being, there is zero evidence of that being fact. If it brings you solace and sobriety more power to you… but if you were on a corner preaching fire and brimstone and a little girl got all up in your face and there was video, I'd still post it with the same title. I'm 110% NOT saying you personally would do this… I'm saying his beliefs don't negate her non-belief. Her yelling at him doesn't make her worse than him yelling that people will go to hell over a PA system. You cannot defend his right to stand there and tell people they're going to hell and not defend her right to tell him to STFU.
And yes… I'm very familiar with the argument (it's been used here) "if you don't believe in hell then it shouldn't bother you." That's a cop out by people who don't want to play on a level playing field. If I stood on the corner and said you're going to get fucked in the ass by a unicorn if you don't believe in XYZ, I don't have to believe in unicorns to know that the person saying that is simply being an asshole.
+Paul Spoerry Your last two sentences had me laughing my ass off. Reminds me of my younger self; I used to stand next to street preachers and match their volume talking about random Greek mythology and how Zeus was lord of all the earth and our spirits would travel to Hades to be with the gods and crap. Used to really piss them off.
+Daniel Carelli I am both an ordained non-denominational minister (I've married some folk) and an ordained Pastafarian minister. There was a period of my life where people would come to my door wanting to preach to me and want to come into my home. So I would allow them in and then hand THEM literature… about the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
+Paul Spoerry Hah. That's like this little article/story I read a few months back. http://goo.gl/65vIWd
LOL +Daniel Carelli.. Hell no I almost can't stop giggling. I would HOPE I wasn't so blatant as those in that story. Not that I shouldn't have been… Only that I thought I was doing it under the same guise of legitimacy that they thought they were. OK, that's flatly not true. I admit it. I was being AS MUCH as an asshole as they were by disturbing me in my home… Only I knew better when I invited then in. I cannot say they had the same level of consciousness about what they were doing (suppose I'll go to hell? Then again… Maybe salvation for opening their eyes hell-a-sarcasm-implied).
+Paul Spoerry I've always preferred the pre-Christian Judaic views of "heaven" as Sheol – a place much more akin to Hades of Greek mythology where all dead people go.
I'm more of a reincarnation guy anyway, the cyclical nature of the universe is enough of a pattern that it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility for me. I try not to assume things about the unobservable, and death is pretty much the ultimate question mark.
+Daniel Carelli you obvious can't even comprehend the difference between talking about satan and ignoring satan. So everything else you said is mute.
+Summer Day you're still talking?
I think the word you were looking for is "moot," and that's not what it means anyway….
Seriously +Summer Day all you've done is throw around the word satan, in sentences filled with words you're not using properly (seriously my 10 year old knows "mute" is what you do to the TV or that it's a person who cannot speak properly).
+Daniel Carelli it was a play on words…meaning DUMB.
+Summer Day You're not intelligent enough to pull off wordplay, unfortunately.
lmao…you know nothing about me.