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O-o I would assume it would apply to anyone who doesn't know the difference between Scripture and Empirical Data…. People can quote the bible all day at me, it's when they attempt to use it as "proof" of their arguments that it starts to bug me.
haha yes, I think Christians are rolling their eyes going "Here he goes again, thinking he knows what he's talking about because he's actually 'read the bible' w.e. I feel jesus in my heart and have a WWJD bracelet. HEAVEN HERE I COME "
I really detest the word "Christians" to begin with. It's such a non-word.
It basically came into being so that the myriad of different Monotheists in the west could pool their political power and resources together to impose their views on the rest of us.
In reality, the different groups and denominations who make up the "Christian" group have nothing in common beyond that single name, and loose shared belief in the same scriptures.
Hell, there are more similarities between some Jews and Christians than there are between other Christian denominations.
When complaining about "Christians," I wish people would be specific; that word could be referring to anyone from the Catholics to the damn Gnostics…..
It is also the same face God will make to you on judgment day when you try to explain why you didn't believe in Him.
+Kevin Brown Do you believe in Unicorns?
+Daniel Panichelli Before you start with the same old nonsensical bs that just starts a back and forth post battle ending in you saying something agnostic, I suggest you read a book called "The Real Face Of Athesim"
http://www.amazon.com/Real-Face-Atheism-Ravi-Zacharias/dp/0801065119/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Remember, the only truly closed mind is the one that refuses to honestly and objectively play devil's advocate against it's own belief system, or lack thereof.
+Kevin Brown Talk about nonsensical BS; I'm neither an agnostic nor an atheist. It's assumptions like that which cause you guys to lose arguments before they even begin.
You know nothing about me; please do not presume to tell me that I don't already honestly and objectively look at my own beliefs; I do so as a basic tenant of my faith. What's your excuse?
I will ask you again; Do you believe in Unicorns?
If the answer is "no," it is likely for the same reason that many other people do not believe in your God; complete and utter lack of empirical evidence.
Truly closed minded people are those who insist they know "the only truth," when in reality there is no factual basis behind a word they say. Truly intelligent people aren't afraid to admit what they don't know.
There is no proof as to whether any Gods do or do not exist; the choice to believe that they do is on every individual's on terms, not your own.
Man is that a fundamental misunderstanding of Atheism if I ever saw one. Every atheist I know would turn into a believer if god showed up. They're not closed minded because they lack a belief. In fact most have looked into it and decided there's no evidence for them to have a belief. The burden of proof goes to those making wild claims, not the other way around.
I feel like the fundamental differences between atheists, agnostics, and anti-theists completely escape a majority of religious folk.
+Daniel Panichelli
Jews still await the coming of the Messiah, this is the big difference with "christians"…
I Samuel 28:6 ^
'And when Saul went for directions to the Lord, the Lord gave him no answer, by a dream or by the Urim or by the prophets'.
What a coincidence! That's pretty much the same face I make every time I run into Fundamentalist Atheists who post dribble like this while pretending they're so much smarter than Christians, when really they're just smug, condescending assholes who have no more of a clue than anyone else. Thanks for sharing!
The level of butthurt in this thread is amazing. Show the slightest amount of disinterest in proselytising and out come the 'god is going to get you' and 'fundamentalist atheist' comments.
+Kevin Brown That book, regardless of its tired and shitty premise, is one giant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_consequentiam
Even if its conclusions were correct, it wouldn't matter one fucking bit to anyone who values logic. Congratulations for not understanding your audience in reply to a post about Christians not understanding their audience, truly a gold star effort.
+J Schwartz So you are not going to read the book, just throw terms you seem to have a loose grip on at it. That's pretty typical.
http://fatfist.hubpages.com/hub/What-is-LOGIC-Logic-does-NOT-Provide-PROOFS-and-TRUTHS
+Kevin Brown I've read it in multiple languages, funny how you don't even respond to me when I address you. You're a joke, mate.
http://youtu.be/ZyFM0_AhIYA?t=6m39s
If you don't watch the entire thing, skip to 6:39.
God’s Assistant: So you’re going to have Moses do magic tricks, specifically to convince the Pharaoh, who will not be convinced, specifically because you will force him to not be convinced.
God: Yeah, basically.
God’s Assistant: What?! Why?
God: So that I will have an excuse to punish him by killing all the first-born sons of Egypt.
Yep, God can do no wrong because God says it’s not wrong when he does wrong things. Makes perfect sense.
Hah, I love Dark Matter.
"Ooh, they'll be fine…. as long as they don't eat from this completely unnecessary tree of life I put in the middle of the garden."
Comedy gold.
+Kevin Brown Wow, you sure showed me who's boss by linking to a sympathetic blog post totally irrelevant to the subject at hand. As I explained in my last reply, even if that book had all its ducks in a row, that doesn't make its findings relevant to someone whose value system doesn't prioritise touchy-feelies over logic. There's not a lot of wiggle room here. This has nothing to do with logic in a bubble and how you can get so far off track from what was a pretty straightforward argument doesn't bode well for your reading comprehension.
And no, I'm not going to read a book just because some fuckwit on the internet tells me to, nor in the process give money to some other schmuck whose stated purpose is to convert people to medieval belief systems (with deliberate and admitted emotional manipulation, no less). If either you or he have an argument to make, it can be made here or in an academic journal. Otherwise, you can fuck off with the wild goose chase and emperor's new clothes debate tactics that have never passed in any forum and which are no more acceptable on the Internet.
Bible is an old book enormously boring, but there interesting stories inside.
Why not open it at random, like a Ouija board?
i get that face alot 😛