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You are here: Home / Google+ Posts / Apple Watch will only last 2.5 hours with heavy use

Apple Watch will only last 2.5 hours with heavy use

January 22, 2015 by Paul Spoerry 109 Comments



Apple targets for Apple Watch battery life revealed, A5-caliber CPU inside
Although Apple has said that the Apple Watch will need to be charged nightly, the company has not disclosed any details on how long the wearable’s battery will last. For the first time, people with…

According to 9to5mac, the Apple Watch the battery is looking at just 2.5 to 4 hours of "active application use" before it dies. Granted, most people aren't going to be full-on using it as their primary device… but I could certainly see people dorking around for 2.5 hours on the thing.

"As a point of comparison, the Moto 360 easily lasts a full day of mixed-use. Our own Eric Limer's watch still had a little under half of its battery left after about 16-hours of wear. Even the Samsung Gear S, which is essentially a full-fledged phone for your wrist, can go a full day easy. And of course, the Pebble Smartwach, which is admittedly a very different beast, can last close to a full week on a single charge." – http://goo.gl/0qXCQ8

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Comments

  1. Patrik Söderström says

    January 22, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    people will buy it anyways… because… apple

  2. Paul Spoerry says

    January 22, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    Sad, but true.

  3. Rob Go says

    January 22, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    I'll be sticking with my Casio.

  4. John Griffith says

    January 22, 2015 at 3:24 pm

    seems rather less then useful. I'm not an Apple person – but also seems un Apple-like.

  5. Paul Spoerry says

    January 22, 2015 at 3:42 pm

    Same here +John Griffith. I'm not an Apple guy but this seems like an odd play. I mean I get that they want it powerful enough to not seem like a hobbled piece of junk, but the one thing Apple people could always hold over Android folks is that battery life on an iPhone was way better. shrug

  6. John Griffith says

    January 22, 2015 at 3:44 pm

    Though I detest the closed ecosystem I always think of apple as making things with great utility that just work. Cludge. +Patrik Söderström​ check out the Onion video on that topic. Funny as hell.

  7. Tim Hunt says

    January 22, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    I'll stick with my Timex. I'm old school.

  8. Zack E says

    January 22, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    Eat dicks Apple

  9. Simon Beckett says

    January 22, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    Im Sure apple will drip feed new batteries in its upcoming 6 versions…Lame

  10. Eddy Sarmiento says

    January 22, 2015 at 4:31 pm

    Wait we are going over a product that's not even out or tested to say it sucks..fanboys at their best.

  11. Andrew Bonfiglio says

    January 22, 2015 at 4:39 pm

    Lol they are going to have a shit battery then release a new one the next year with better battery life so they can milk more money from the Apple fan boys

  12. Lloyd M says

    January 22, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    2.5 to 4 hours of "continuous" on screen use is pretty accurate and falls in line with 1st gen Android Wear watches. However, the screen won't be on the entire time, nor will it be displaying a completely white display, with every pixel lit up. As an OLED display, most pixels won't be lit and therefore not eating battery.

    Expect a days worth of typical use, which is less than gen 2 Android Wear watches are seeing now.

  13. Marek Góral says

    January 22, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    yeah, so it's enough time to flash out in public that you have an apple watch with the shirt sleeves pulled up and that's it, thank you very much

  14. Eddy Sarmiento says

    January 22, 2015 at 4:41 pm

    +Lloyd M

    That's what most here saying the apple watch suck can't comprehend. We are not even sure what's the actual battery like etc etc.

  15. Dan K says

    January 22, 2015 at 4:59 pm

    This stuff is mind-numbing on Google+. The Moto 360 could not last 2.5 screen on time. It couldn't even last a full day "mixed use". Setting it up, when it's continuous, it goes from 100% to 30% in an hour. I had it, I returned it. Sony Smartwatch 3 lasted much longer. If the Apple Watch does not last a long work day without question, then it's trash. We won't know until it's here.

  16. Eddy Sarmiento says

    January 22, 2015 at 5:01 pm

    +Dan K

    We are talking about what if. No real conclusion.

  17. Dan K says

    January 22, 2015 at 5:02 pm

    +Eddy Sarmiento yes, of course

  18. Eddy Sarmiento says

    January 22, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    +Dan K

    Thanks friend. I never trash any Google service or company. Hell I can't stand Samsung because of all the issues I had with then. Yet I won't go into a post bashing then.

  19. Jordi Posthumus says

    January 22, 2015 at 5:12 pm

    Apple Watch, come to papa!!!

  20. Paul Spoerry says

    January 22, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    According to Gizmoda the Moto will last a full day with mixed use. According to Android Authority you can get 16-18 hours with the screen continuously on (http://www.androidauthority.com/first-30-days-moto-360-565826/).

    According to Apple sources the Apple Watch can expect to see 3.5 hours of standard app use.

  21. jake stuck says

    January 22, 2015 at 5:57 pm

    #Androidwear

  22. Marcus Bennett says

    January 22, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    Didn't anyone read the memo? At launch for the best experience with this first gen product you will need two units. One on your wrist and another on charge. You are recommended to swap at 12 hour intervals or if you can every 8 hours.

  23. Randy Sagoo says

    January 22, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    This is the invention of year according Time Magazine and they NEVER lie!!

    I have a moto360 and the battery last 8 to 10 hours.

  24. Eddy Sarmiento says

    January 22, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    +Paul Spoerry

    Again I believe it until I see it,try in person.

  25. Daniel Ortiz says

    January 22, 2015 at 6:19 pm

    And they also said the Moto 360 wouldn't last 8-10 hours.

    Jesus.

  26. Dave Stein says

    January 22, 2015 at 6:19 pm

    Damn, that's as bad as my Nexus 5 🙁

  27. Shayne Jones says

    January 22, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    Pointless crap i would rather strap my note4 to my wrist at least i could do something useful with it!

  28. Sebastian Moreno says

    January 22, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    And yet everybody will buy it… What a pity

  29. Shayne Jones says

    January 22, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    Indeed

  30. Matthew Antoine says

    January 22, 2015 at 7:38 pm

    If so not surprising they could never put a battery capable with the long lasting impact to run their devices

  31. Erico Nunez says

    January 22, 2015 at 8:03 pm

    apple is gonna be the next old blackberry huh…..👓

  32. Gyo Kamata says

    January 22, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    My G-Shock lasts for years…

  33. Thomas Wrobel says

    January 22, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    And this is why, so far, the Pebble has been the closest to "getting it".
    Wearables are cool and can improve our lives being usefull. But we dont need a second smartphone.

  34. John Hernandez says

    January 22, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    +Gyo Kamata mines too, I read the papers that came in the box( I know, but I was bored) and its says it charges with solar power, so until there is a solar powered smart watch, I'm not switching.

  35. Alex Rakestraw says

    January 22, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    +Thomas Wrobel I like my pebble. Got it for Christmas and it is a good balance of smart but not to smart. And battery life is about a week for me.

  36. John Griffith says

    January 22, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    +Erico Nunez​ could be…there isn't much room for error really…sure didn't take too many missteps to knock Yahoo, Blackberry and Sony out of the bigger picture (or any one of a ton of other companies)

  37. Nathan Warman says

    January 22, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    hahaha wow

  38. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 22, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    next overpriced junk by apple sux

  39. Darius Beverley says

    January 22, 2015 at 10:36 pm

    This isn't going to hold a candle to the Galaxy Gear S!

  40. Michael Brown says

    January 22, 2015 at 10:41 pm

    Optimizations can go a long way. Just saying.

  41. edmond shortcircuit says

    January 22, 2015 at 11:12 pm

    So the apple watch is a joke. Ha ha ha
    A two hour timer is all its worth sell it to cooks.

    Ding. Your chicken is done … Thank you Siri
    Your welco………..

  42. Professor Alfredo says

    January 22, 2015 at 11:24 pm

    People, we buy Apple products because we LIKE and APPRECIATE them. Everything has its own flaws. And if you don't like them, well, then don't buy them. You can't just say they're bad because it's different from what you like.

  43. Earnest Hill says

    January 22, 2015 at 11:54 pm

    2.5 hours is about right for an apple watch. They still haven't made the battery last to long for heavy use on their phones. Which makes it not worth buying it. I'll let you rich kids buy it so they can improve it. Lol. I don't need to get it first! Lol.

  44. Vince Fern says

    January 23, 2015 at 12:55 am

    My non-smart (wireless) Mobile Phone lasts for two and a half weeks. Why put a battery in these gadgets at all? Just plug them in permanently, like the old land-line telephones (pre DECT) used to be.
    Progress..?

  45. Jimmy peña says

    January 23, 2015 at 1:06 am

    +Zack E well… The CEO is gay… 😂😂😂

  46. Skip Aj says

    January 23, 2015 at 1:29 am

    +Jimmy peña that's not funny.

  47. mic smith says

    January 23, 2015 at 3:14 am

    2.5 hours… lol. Ha.

  48. Fahad Mahmud Mirza says

    January 23, 2015 at 4:27 am

    Sony brought the same shape with its SmartWatch 3 SWR50 (4GB ROM, 512MB RAM, 5.0L, 2-3 Days Battery Life) and the internet boasted about its ugliness like its somewhat a law or a good deed to curse it heavly… An even uglier, blatantly poor shape comes from Apple with only 2.5 hours of battery life, but the people are going ga ga over it and would sell their arm and kidney for it… Because its Apple, right…??? Yeah, right… :s

  49. Stark Jones says

    January 23, 2015 at 4:39 am

    As an owner of a Moto360 I can confirm that the battery life is now up to par with other smart watches. I'm regularly getting estimated usage of over a full day, and in fact often have just over 40% charge left when it goes on the dock at night after 17 or 18 hours of mixed use with ambient mode turned on. 19 hours of 'mostly passive' use is not enough in my opinion, and couple that with the ugly look (we could be charitable and call it retro styling at a pinch) and it's a non starter in my book. The combination of tap, swipe and crown usage make it too fiddly (although don't get me started on the Samsung Orbis proposed control schema) and from reports so far it doesn't seem to do much that Android Wear can't do

  50. Glenn Deakin says

    January 23, 2015 at 5:35 am

    I get roughly 7 -9 days with my pebble steel just using it as a watch but with some notifications coming through, if I need to go online for anything I either use my phone or wait till I get home and use my chromebook depending on urgency.

  51. Will Walker says

    January 23, 2015 at 6:23 am

    Sounds like I will have to wait for the 2nd Gen version then. I will continue using the Pebble in the mean time. I wonder what they will bring to the table this year?

  52. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 23, 2015 at 8:41 am

    holy moly 2.5 h hahhahha epic fail watch and stupid people will buy bcoz love apple overpriced cheap junk people are stupid no wonder 500$ apple cheap junk watch stupid people will buy poor brainwashed apple freaks

  53. Mafer Yu says

    January 23, 2015 at 9:12 am

    This will be the biggest flop in Apple history.

  54. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 23, 2015 at 9:13 am

    +Mafer Yu all product from Apple is FLOP

  55. Joseph Zuraski II says

    January 23, 2015 at 9:27 am

    So just as much life as a Fitbit Surge running GPS and active screen. Unless I'm using it wrong.

  56. Mafer Yu says

    January 23, 2015 at 9:28 am

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski Nope, iPhone is the best.

  57. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 23, 2015 at 9:31 am

    +Mafer Yu yep stupid people like you love overpriced cheap junk from 2012 poor brainwashed apple zombie hahah

  58. Mafer Yu says

    January 23, 2015 at 9:36 am

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski Retard like you think people buy Apple product automatic a brainwashed zombie.

  59. Calvin H. says

    January 23, 2015 at 9:37 am

    +Mafer Yu He's an idiotic troll and he's below every Apple related post.

    But, do you have any reasons why you think the iPhone is the best?

  60. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 23, 2015 at 9:42 am

    +Mafer Yu yeaah apple love stupid people like you hahha poor brainwashed stupid apple freak go sell your family and go to apple store and buy your overpriced apple junk hahhaha

  61. Naki Ford says

    January 23, 2015 at 9:50 am

    Trolls aren't even taking the time to type proper English anymore. Damn 2015 is going to be a rough year for G+ post

  62. Faisal Almalki says

    January 23, 2015 at 9:51 am

    CASIO a158w-1, 11 years of continuos use.

  63. DH1986 says

    January 23, 2015 at 9:53 am

    I'll buy one just to play with it a little bit, but wearables are not something i'm interested in as a whole. I love technology and want to see where the watch is at hardware wise. I do the same with different phones although I do have my own preferences.

  64. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 23, 2015 at 9:55 am

    +Naki Ford brace yourself stupid apple zombie is coming hahha poor you

  65. Will Walker says

    January 23, 2015 at 10:25 am

    +Naki Ford lol!

  66. Macauley Hearn says

    January 23, 2015 at 1:07 pm

    Why there so many haters out there for both operating systems …. Its just a phone people

  67. Dominick Albano says

    January 23, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    The best R&D investment any tech company can make is to create a long lasting battery life. Until then all the new phones, tablets, watches and wearables are just test toys for adults.

  68. Will Walker says

    January 23, 2015 at 1:13 pm

    +Macauley Hearn exactly!

  69. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 23, 2015 at 1:35 pm

    +Macauley Hearn hahahaa poor apple ZoMbIE

  70. Eric Kemp says

    January 23, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    Why the fuck use apps on a watch when you have a phone? Are watches the new smart phone now? I thought watches were for telling what TIME it is. Not if Joe Blow liked your Facebook post or whatever insignificant fodder that comes your way on devices. This is so stupid.

  71. Macauley Hearn says

    January 23, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski took the bait i see. Typical

  72. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 23, 2015 at 2:22 pm

    +Macauley Hearn​ i see you are brainwashed apple junk

  73. Donovan Resh says

    January 23, 2015 at 2:24 pm

    Anyone who spends more than 4 hours looking at a watch in a 24 hour period has got some problems. That battery life seems way more than sufficient.

  74. Macauley Hearn says

    January 23, 2015 at 5:36 pm

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski what's ironic is I'm a android user but I'm intelligent enough to understand that both os are decent unlike you

  75. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 23, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    +Macauley Hearn nice joke ahhaha

  76. Steve Dion says

    January 23, 2015 at 7:51 pm

    Apple first gen devices are usually pretty bad. Think Macbook Air 1, iPad 1, iPhone, etc. Second gens are pretty solid. I'll probably buy an i Watch just because. But I'm interested in what gen2 will bring us.

  77. Pye Lot says

    January 23, 2015 at 8:21 pm

    There's a new battery from the man that invented lithium-ion, it uses a nano anode and another chemical, 70% charge in 2 minutes, expected to last 25 yrs. Cars manufacturers want this too

    Coming out 1 yr – 2yr, so that will be interesting and useful for everyone. Yay

  78. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 23, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    +Pye Lot in 2077 ?

  79. Macauley Hearn says

    January 24, 2015 at 1:25 am

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski im 20 how that a kid

  80. Rudy Z. says

    January 24, 2015 at 10:24 am

    2.5 hours of using Apple watch ….my older Samsung smart watch performs better than that

  81. Steven Buehler says

    January 24, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    Ugh. Guess I'll stick with my Pebble (or maybe switch to Windows Phone and Microsoft Band).

  82. Duncan Gunn says

    January 24, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    Sigh!… If only I were a brilliant battery chemist. All these smart-ish watches suffer the same illness to varying degrees.

  83. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 24, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    +Macauley Hearn poor brainwasged apple kid

  84. james campbell says

    January 25, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski If you're going to insult someone, at least spell correctly. I've seen you on plenty of posts bashing Apple. and that shows that you're insecure about your own device and you secretly want an iPhone. You're a grown man yet you're arguing with people over g+? Are you lonely, a virgin, or both? Because you don't seem like you have anything else to do. You homophobic asshole.

  85. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 25, 2015 at 5:33 pm

    +james campbell​​ hahhaa poor brainwashed apple looser i bash stupid people like you please go to apple store and buy your pils please go away from pc fucking virgin pedophile retard apple own your brain for you stupid people like you love cheap overpriced junk from apple i hate overpriced junk i never buy ishit bcoz sux iphone buy apple zombie bcoz dont know how to use smartphone dumb apple junk

  86. Rudy Z. says

    January 25, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    It's not because we want apple device secretly, cause Apple fans act like iphones are the best phones which is not! Samsung, LG, and HTC, Sony phones are better than iPhones now. ..

  87. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 25, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    +Rudy Z. apple fans dont have brains dumb people buy dumb phone iphone buy people whu dont know how to use smartphone poor isheep hha

  88. Rudy Z. says

    January 25, 2015 at 5:41 pm

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski Ditto,buddy, Apple phones are so easy, but too strict so can't experience a true smartphone ability

  89. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 25, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    +Rudy Z. apple brainwashed zombie say apple hardware is so superior plastic junk pfff mate aluminium is apple hardware omfg hahhaha

  90. james campbell says

    January 25, 2015 at 5:52 pm

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski Hahaha you can barerly construct a sentence let a lone insult me you dick head! You're a homophobic twat who no doubt molests kids. "People who use iPhone are dumb" oh, so are you calling some of the smartest people in the world, dumb? Stop trying to make yourself feel better by saying iPhones are overpriced. P.s +Rudy Z. I've never owned an iPhone, I never claim them to be the best but when retards like +Aleksandar Nikoloski call Apple users "poor" and "isheep" you can clearly see which community has the mature users. You can't experience a true smartphone ability? WTF does the even mean? The iPhone can access the web, apps, phone, email, texting, games etc.. That's a smartphone. You seriously don't make any sense. But what do you expect from two blinded android users. One is a homophobic retard who was molestd by his uncle at a young age which is why he's so defensive and you're making assumptions about Apple users that are false. Also, I'd hate to be you knowing you're agreeing with someone who thinks gays should "die". If you're wondering how I know this, it's because this retard +Aleksandar Nikoloski lives and breathes to bash Apple and the community. But I can gaurentee you I'll get a reply from his saying "hahan isheep fuk boy go back tto you overpriced junk virgin zombie" You see how that made no sense just like his comments?

  91. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 25, 2015 at 5:52 pm

    for the first time i heard apple aluminium is superior hardware made by apple by dumb apple sheep hahhaha

  92. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 25, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    +james campbell​ i dont insult i bash apple brainwashed stupid people with low iq shame one you go to your apple world stupid apple freak stupid people like you dont have sense poor apple junk

  93. james campbell says

    January 25, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski Why don't you actually type a sentence we can all understand, then you might get a legitimate reply.

  94. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 25, 2015 at 5:56 pm

    +james campbell​​ i understand but please go away from computer you are shame for your family no one love you junk wait apple sheep say iphone is not overpriced aha you are blid for sure mate keep your shit in your pants

  95. james campbell says

    January 25, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski Again, you still can't construct a legitimate paragraph or sentence that makes sense. You do realize that you're a fully grown man who bashes on Apple users? You don't have a career, kids or job to worry about, no? You're a pathetic low life looser who can barely spell. I fell sorry for you and your 3rd world nation you live in. P.s, putting "works at Nexus" as your job title is pathetic xD. You're a fucking retard hahahah.

  96. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 25, 2015 at 6:04 pm

    +james campbell you are retarded mate you buy overpriced cheap junk by apple not me for you pleasw go away from pc go to apple store and buy overpriced apple brain please dont make yourself dumb please go away you are shame what a looser

  97. james campbell says

    January 25, 2015 at 6:10 pm

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski Ha. calls me retarded yet you can't even construct a proper sentence.
    Calls me a looser Admits that he does nothing but bash Apple users.
    States that I have an "Apple brain" Yet his own brain is that of an 11yr old. Heck, a 10yr old has more brains than this homophobic dick.

  98. james campbell says

    January 25, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski Oh, so you've finally realized that you're an idiot? Just look at your profile picture, you look like you're about to abduct a child right now.

  99. james campbell says

    January 25, 2015 at 6:13 pm

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski You just proved that you're retarded. I've said multiple times that I don't own an iPhone, so that shows that your tiny mind can process many things. "Please don't make yourself look dumb what a looser" hahaha. I can assure you that I can never make myself look more dumb than you. P.s, why are you looking through my profile? Weirdo.

  100. james campbell says

    January 25, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski You feel for me? Aww, I feel for you too. I've never met an adult who can't spell. What kind of mental illness do you have? "you think you are smart buy you are not smart" firstly, you didn't even spell that sentence right, and secondly, I know more than you ever will about technology. How do I know this? Because for starters, your profile states that you work at "Nexus". You actually think Nexus is a standalone company. That right there shows that you're stupid. But oh no I'm "embarrassing myself" hahahahah get a life you frickin asshole. Why do you act tough on the internet? Can you not act tough in real life? I'm sure you just get your ass beaten each time xD. You're a little bitch. Deal with it.

  101. james campbell says

    January 25, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski "old overpriced tech" is that why Apple devices are among the most popular and fastest devices around? But oh wait, you wouldn't know this. Why? Because you're an idiot and you don't look at facts. Facts are indicating that you're nothing but a complete and total retard. You're contradicting everything you say and you're just sound more and more like the average android user each time.

  102. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 25, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    +Professor Alfredo apple eat your brain apple zombie muhahahahahaha

  103. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 25, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    +Professor Alfredo its cool to be stupid hahah poor brainwashed apple zombie

  104. Professor Alfredo says

    January 25, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    If you say so…

  105. Aleksandar Nikoloski says

    January 25, 2015 at 7:18 pm

    +Professor Alfredo sell your family and buy your cheap overpriced junk apple freak

  106. Professor Alfredo says

    January 25, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    K?

  107. Pye Lot says

    January 29, 2015 at 8:11 am

    +Aleksandar Nikoloski​ when I write "expected to last" it means "life expectancy of each battery cell" . Usually acid batteries wear out after 3yrs and a similar wear time for rechargable lithium-ion, from my experience.

  108. jerry kuhn says

    February 3, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    Get this Paul off my list!

  109. jerry kuhn says

    February 3, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    Paul Spoerry… Please STOP !!!!!!

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