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  1. Is this in reference to all vaccines? Not wishing to argue, as I don't have a very strong opinion either way, but, what about the following instance. The Flu vaccine. There are many strains of the virus, and the flu shot only covers some. Also, why are babies given a hep-b vaccine, are they having sex already? Side Note: I fully realize this may start an epic argument on your post. I apologize in advance! 🙂

  6. Vaccinations of young children in the schedule they do it does cause serious mental problems… Never mind the CDC scientist that compiled reports came out 5 months ago and said he cooked the books in favor of vaccination.

    All vaccines are not the same either, some have longer shelf life due to precursors like mercury others have had shortcuts taken in production, for example the bird flu virus, there was live batter in some, meaning it hadn't been radiated once packaged.

    but go ahead, rant away I'm an idiot and deserved to be sterilized to prevent some child from suffering,… fine with me, it's exactly the forcing of vaccines which is my genuine reason for not taking them. Why get a flu shot if it doesn't reduce the instance of flu? Why force me If I prefer to actually get the flu, which I won't. I never get sick from that stuff and believe a solid diet is much better than any shot.

  8. LOL well if you want to get super technical +Adam Magness there are several types of vaccines and they're used for different things. A Live, attenuated vaccines contain a version of the living microbe that has been weakened in the lab so it can’t cause disease (measles, mumps, flu). There's inactivated vaccines made by killing the disease-causing microbe with chemicals, heat, or radiation (Polio, Hep A). Toxoid, where an inactive toxin is used (Diphtheria, tetanus). Subunit/Conjugate vaccines take only pieces of the pathogens they protect against to make the immune system respond (Hepatitis B, flu). And so on…

    If you really want to differentiate then I'd agree that smallpox and polio are of greater significance than the flu. That said, as far as a young child is concerned they should get a flu shot (and so should the elderly) as they're more susceptible to the impact of the flu. I personally don't get a flu shot. But uh… measles… well, the recent outbreak is directly attributable to non vaccinated people (http://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html). Measles was declared eliminated in the US in 2000 (http://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/faqs.html#eliminated) but because of people not vaccinating it's returning.

    (but yeah this was mostly about the people who use the argument about autism as a reason NOT to do it)

  11. +Adam Magness hard Question: There ias a tihng called Herd Immunity. When Over 80% of us get vaccinated its very hard for Bugs to attack a population.

    Its collective immunity. Part of this is because every single time a member of the popuation gets infected it givers a new opportunity for a germ yo evolve. If you dont have mass-innoculation and herd Immunity, Even the people who get vaccinated are at risk.

    They didnt give mass inoculations for Hep B when I was a baby. I didnt get it till I was an adult. But I also had Chickenpox, which was awful!

    I wish they had the vaccine back then! I have the virus for Life and I run a risk of getting nerve damage when I am older. That is shit because I already have nerve damage. I second cause could cripple me!

    Getting a disease is always worse than the vaccination. But Hep B was supposedly rare in the US back then

    Yeah , there is a good chance that the HepB would have protected me as an adult. Those antibodies are long-lasting.
    You know how germy kids are. Non-symptomatic people can shed the virus for weeks , sometimes months. Its commonly spread by infected food prepares.

    As a result of Getting Hep B ( worse thanksgiving ever , fever and locked out too ) I didnt need an inoculation.

    Oh, what you are missing is that babies immunites are basically shit. You dont want your baby to get HepB . Fever, Diarrhea, possible liver damage ( brain swelling maybe ?) If they are inoculating babies now, its because there dead babies

    "In those who get infected around the time of birth 90% develop chronic hepatitis B while less than 10% of those infected after the age of five do.[3] Most of those with chronic disease have no symptoms; however, cirrhosis and liver cancer may eventually develop.[4] These complications results in the death of 15 to 25% of those with chronic disease.[1]"

    Babies dont clear Hep B. Thats why.

    "A vaccine can prevent hepatitis B, but there's no cure if you have it. If you're infected, taking certain precautions can help prevent spreading HBV to others."

    Baby get it, has it for life. Could get Nerve Damage, could be Crippled, risks spreading it for the rest of ist life, and will probably die young from liver cancer.

  12. +David Stickney You mention mercury, but not why. Yes some have mercury as a preservative but time and again it's been looked at and there is no evidence to support claims it's harmful (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal_controversy).

    The flu shot IS effective. It's not 100% effective, but it is effective. To say it simply isn't would imply you don't understand how the flu vaccine works. There are multiple strains of fly virus so projections as to which will be most prevalent have to be made and some years it's more effective than others because of that. But again, the flu isn't a compulsory vaccination and unless you have small children or the elderly living with you typically the worse that will happen is that if you get the flu it'll be harder hitting than if you didn't get the shot. Again, I don't get that particular one but and the primary point (maybe I should have been more clear) of this image is that it vaccinations don't cause autism.

  14. +Paul Spoerry for the record No studies are available on the carcinogenic effects of inorganic mercury in humans.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8465166

    although tests on rats show a substantial mortality rate. BTW, the CDC had a whistleblower who stated they cooked the books on this.

    As for shots as "immunomodulators" my experience over the last 20 years has shown that you can get better results from diet than shots. Test case, 2 people sick with the flu. One drinks the juice from the Breuss diet the other does not,. the person drinking the root juices normally has no symptoms in 24 hours.

    A person who drinks the juice daily simply doesn't catch the flu.

    Now I can test that in my own house and have., I've used it for 20 years. I haven't been to the doctor or had a shot in 20 years nor have I suffered from the flu. This is just one example.

    With that said many flu vaccines are tested on humans, per say, and quite often with more side affects and no particular defense against the flu. If we look at the bird flu vaccine in poland, they killed a bunch of people testing that, and several EU countries found live virus meaning it hadn't been radiated.

    Also, the stuff that doesn't pass isn't destroyed, they just send it to third world countries so I consider the entire practice ridden with corporate fraud.

    In the end, I can say I would prefer to homeschool my child, and have, until at least the age of 5 years old before any vaccine, allowing him to more develop neuron pathways prior to anything that might block receptors. Based on the number of parents that report autism like effects after vaccines i perhaps wrongfully assume there is an issue with neuron damage or the occupation of receptors. A child that has already reached a more advanced mental development is less likely to suffer from such an effect if that were the case.

    I'd experiment with myself, not with my kid nor do I care to have anyone else experiment. I have a very low level of trust with pharmaceutical companies.

  16. One common denominator in claims of autistic symptoms appearing after vaccinations is multiple vaccinations in a short period of time. Like a child entering school given a series in a single day, I know 2 ladies that were here on google both had the same experience.

  18. Not to mention the idea of Autism being so mind-blowingly terrible that it worse then all those other things which can kill.
    Its sort of saying "Id rather my child be dead then different!"

  20. +David Stickney I never said anything about carcinogenic effects of mercury. Did you even look at the image? The second box after "No" goes into autism. And while I think a healthy diet is a good thing, and could ward off catching the flu, I doubt it would have stood much of a chance as a method of polio prevention. I'd never heard of a Breuss diet but "A 2012 review of cancer diets named the Breuss diet as one of the most frequently mentioned, but cautioned there is no evidence to support taking these "cancer diets" and that they can be harmful." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Breuss

    Allow this guy to further illustrate why vaccination is so important: http://abc30.com/…/measles-patient-visited-the…/494558/

    A man in Fresco who is infected with the measles visited the labor and delivery floor of Community Regional Medical Center…. TWICE. He was also known to have been at WinCo Foods (a supermarket) and at the Build A Bear and Disney stores at a local mall.

    In his defense: He may not have known he had measles, you can not display symptoms for up to two weeks after infection.

    Not in his defense: We've had an unbelievably effective vaccine for more than fifty years.

    Measles was declared eradicated in the United States fifteen years ago… then people stopped vaccinating. The CDC found that:

    "In the three largest outbreaks of 2014, which account for over a half of all cases this year, transmission occurred after introduction of measles into communities with pockets of persons who were unvaccinated because of philosophical or religious beliefs." (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6322a4.htm)

    Now this guy could have had, or known, a kid in the hospital and that would also explain trips to Build a Bear and Disney stores. I'm not saying it was malicious or anything but it illustrates the point of how one non-vaccinated person can have an impact on the people around them. The reality is that we live within close proximity to one another and unless there is a medical reason why someone shouldn't receive a certain vaccination there's no scientific evidence that they shouldn't and not doing so endangers everyone.

    I'll stick with science for my answers…
    "There's nothing here to argue against
    It's a process not an ideology
    And I fucking love science"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECuQaaGGfA

  21. +Thomas Wrobel to be moderately fair, and speaking as a parent with a disabled child (who falls on the autism spectrum, but the cause of her issues has been genetically identified); raising these kids is often a daunting, intense, and sometimes even crushing task.

    It isn't just that your kid is 'different'- the levels of support the child (and the family) will need is exponentially larger, and will last for much longer, than non-spectrum kids. I really can't blame a parent for being afraid to risk finding themselves in that situation, or to seek out something to blame if they do.

    I can however, be harshly critical when their fears override all common sense and science to follow a path that has been absolutely and soundly debunked.

  22. Actually the juice from the Breuss diet is extremely effective against a wide range of ailments. Next time your vaccine fails you and you feel the onset, go on a liquid diet with that juice, most people are surprised.

    As for what has been written, you should note that there is a guy in court right now in Austria, who came up with a shot that cures a range of illnesses, Ukrain http://medicdebate.org/node/294

    Big Pharma is notorious for slamming alternative cures, from juicing green cannabis, to the bruess diet, to Byrzinski's treatment but take their word for it. Let's face it, they are pushing chemo that hasn't changed much in the last 50 years.

    I'm not actually against vaccines, I am against the ages, frequency and the questionable compositions I'm also against forcing shit on people, but american in general tend to all be on the trip to Abilene anyway so no sense arguing with them

    BTW, read about Breuss court cases, and Byrzinski for that. shows you what lengths big pharma goes tho to silence cures.

  23. +David Stickney​​​ three observations without opinions.
    1. Your personal test group that you're basing this on is your family. I'm all for eating healthier, but your group size is statistically insignificant and you all could be much less prone to illness anyway. Also to mention, you hopefully have never been in contact with measles or any of the other more serious diseases even if we assume that the flu vaccine is useless.
    2. The Google link's first result is on http://time.com and seems like it does a decent job explaining the "whistle-blower" situation. Even in there, it states that vaccines have saved countless lives and are still urgently recommended.
    3. That time article also leads to that many cases of autism are not diagnosed until the kids begin preschool/kindergarten, in which they are required to be vaccinated to attend. Teachers see countless kids and are typically fantastic observers of behavioral problems and generally know what to look for to flag someone for further investigation.

  24. +Brad Tissi​​ if been seeing the results of Breuss since about 1994 and it's been pretty consistent in swatting down the flu I suggest everyone try it. I've seen lots ilof instances where a family has gotten I'll and some went on the diet others did not. Most of the time it works within a day. Certainly there should be real studies on it, but big pharmacy and the US government are not about to pay for something that can't be patented. Anyway my suggestion is to try it next time. It also will help a wide range of ailments i've seen skin conditions, allergies and the like clear up on the diet

    unfortunately the government routinely lies and cover up for coporations. I don't consider many government reports unless there is some other sources.

    I believe there is a genuine link in some children not based on a diagnosis at the time of school but by statements of parents who semester aptly qualified to recognize a rapid decline in their children's mentality.

    If we look at the proteomes present in vaccines it becomes clear that without a full understanding of their interactions in the metabolism,which we do not have, you are in fact taking an undetermined risk. I believe that vaccines could easily contain proteomes that once metabolized or in their initial form could act as receptor blocking agents and could inhibit normal neuron pathways. Any scientist that would dispute that as a possible mechanism are clearly denying the fact we don't understand most of the proteolytic interactions that occur in the human body

  25. +David Stickney I have never been killed by falling pianos and neither has anyone in my household. That's because we take Dr. Doolittle's Zorba Elixir regularly! NIM is holding back proof that no-one who has taken the Elixir regularly for at least 4 months has EVER been killed by falling pianos! Pharma doesn't want people to know this, because Pharma is preparing to market the expensive and dehabilitating chronanium hexahydride (brand name Phalanxic) , which is PROVEN to cause mice hooves to crumble! You should be sure to make or buy some Dr. Doolittle's Zorba Elixir for yourself and anyone you love who might be at risk from falling pianos! Did you know that in October 2013, three K'nut living on a small Marshall Islands island were killed when a piano fell out of a charter airplane passing overhead? Falling pianos is a global menace, so if you don't protect your family with Dr. Doolittle's Zorba Elixir, it's because you don't love them.

    I got the recipe for Dr. Doolittle's Zorba Elixir from a zine, but you should be able to find it online. Unless they have suppressed the pages.

  28. +David Stickney​ We still don't know how anesthesia works, but rely on it for untold numbers of procedures. Science is a process.
    Some skepticism is healthy and should never be fully dismissed, but as in ALL things, there must be balance.

  29. " you are in fact taking an undetermined risk"

    Whereas you are taking a very determined, statistically provable risk by not taking them.

    I assume you also don't carry a cellphone or use a microwave.

  31. +Brad Tissi true, however, unlike the interaction of proteomes on the nervous system we do understand the pharmacokinetics of opiates and they tend to be naturally produced or identically synthesized. With the proteomes we are decades from understanding that, even with massive computing resources http://www.thehpp.org/

    I don't know how raw cannabis juice or hash oils cure cancer, but I see then as naturally occurring with known pharmacokinetics

    Again, I am certainly not against all vaccines, then again all vaccines are not the same and some very greatly. the whole live virus in vaccine thing seems to go ever everyone's heads, here's a case when the protocol for producing the vaccine is not followed through, it would be impossible to produce a vaccine otherwise. Live vaccines I find also questionable at best.

    +Thomas Wrobel I spent 3 years working on the first rad lab in Chernobyl, I understand the interaction of ionizing and non ionizing radiation on cells.

    I have also been radiated by 800,000 watts of g band microwave, with pretty serious consequences so you might consider I am fairly well versed and read on the subject.

    You'd be advised to limit close contact with any source or radiation. If I am going to be on a long call I will use a speaker or a headset, I won't use a bluetooth headset.

    I won't use a microwave for food because of the effects of radiation on the structure of water and the carcinogens produced by sugars that are radiated.

    Look I fully understood I would be scrutinized and ridiculed by pro vaccine folks, fine with me, but the ilks of you with your petty strawman attacks will not get a rise.

    I mean really, people here are viewing all vaccines as the same and placing a judgment on their veracity or their use as such. All vaccines are not the same and producing methods and ingredients vary widely. Perhaps the part that I am not against all vaccines was ignored, that said, I'll stick with my reservations regarding the relationship to autism for the lack of definitive answers to valid concerns. I do believe that multiple vaccinations in short periods of time could also produce side effects and that should be investigated – the idea that multiple vaccine would not interact with each other is highly unlikely or that acceptable doses of components wouldn't interact differently at higher dosages.

    So that it's known, I don't live in the US, I am not required by law to perform any medical procedure, I have 3 sons, none of them were vaccinated prior to entering public school, they were vaccinated with far fewer that the 20 or so shots american get. We have NO GMO, we live on an Island and there are few if any other toxin metabolized due to the lack of pollution. Aside from vaccines, there is MUCH a person can do to ensure a well prepared immune system and vaccines don't seem to be a substitute for proper diet and mineralization.

  33. +David Stickney Google "killed by falling piano". It happens. (But not to those who take Dr. Doolittle's Zorba Elixir.) The famous philosopher John Searle wrote about death by falling piano in his explanation of "functional facts".

  35. +David Stickney "Actually the juice from the Breuss diet is extremely effective against a wide range of ailments."

    Scientific double blind study please? Otherwise all you're giving is totally unqualified opinion, in other words, meaningless.

  38. +Jeff Stevens if you are going to quote someone using quotation marks, at least be verbatim. bait not taken, declare your interest in promoting vaccines, it surely could be based on health since you don't appear to take care of your own.

  39. +Walter Roberson are you searching in Google? In Russian? you need to review the gravity modulation research conducted by the Soviet Union Ural Mountain energy facility.. Gravity is concentration of wavelength by compression of the gravity wave produced by the presence of mass. it's a wave but effects mass on a planar, so it is positive and negative, the more mass, the greater compression and more time spent in the positive. for all the mass there is, there is mass that is not, which is affected on the negative side of the sine.the result is a vibration, you're just unable to observe it since it's happening perhaps trillion times a nm and everything is motionless for all reasonable purposes. How else did you think they created antigravity in the USSR?

  41. hey lets just keep listening to them "experts" you know the ones that for years have been over prescribing antibiotics and oh yeah you have pain here have a perk or vicoden don't worry it's an opiate and HIGHLY ADDICTED.we won't bother trying to figure out the cause of your pain just take this and forget about it.OH yeah and here is ANOTHER BIG RED FLAG,NONE OF THE VACCINE DEVELOPERS WILL TAKE THEM VACCINES OR FLU SHOTS THEMSELVES.

  43. Or maybe people don't vaccinate because they've done their own research of scientific papers and made up their own minds rather that just relying on the okay from authorities…it would mean they would have to be able understand the jargon though….which would mean they aren't idiots. For those that just 'believe' either side of the argument – I think the term foolish probably applies rather than idiot.

  44. no I feel that if they dont want to.. ok dont, not everything comes with warning lables. natural selection baby, but when you go to the Dr's office keep hands and opinions to your self

  45. When someone just posts google searches that is a good indication that there are no valid sources that support their claim. If they had any they would have posted them. It's a good way to lose an argument from the start and sacrifice any and all credibility. Why? Because it shows that they really have no idea what they are talking about, and usually what they are talking about is considered laughably absurd in the science community.

  46. All you scientific people.. what a joke…

    Everyone here is the big believer in science, then I have to ask where is the argument to the proteomes being a possible vector for inhibiting neural pathways…

    You don't have one. because making vaccines is HIT AND MISS

    Science… I've written out real science for you..

    go research what I wrote and maybe you'll come to the conclusion everything isn't black and white.

    vaccines are apples and oranges – the lot of you have come to conclusions on the basis of only the apple.

    Americans are the worst too. sorry but it's true. I mean crap if it's in the post, on fox or msnbc then we all must be on the same page, Merica fuck yeah

    keep believing all the trash they feed you.

    your government lies to you on a regular basis with impunity and you expect some FDA or CDC to give you a striaght answer when the revolving door has put industry pundits in all the seats? how childish…

    Let's see,… how much of the "science" comes from these cesspools of corporate interests? most.

    Give me a double blind study on beet juice..

    GTFO,.. like I said, wait till your flu vaccine fails and try it yourself.

    cure all sorts of conditions? give it to that teenager who is suffering from pimples and see.

    I love how the guy stuffing his face with pink slime at mcdonalds is going to lecture me about something he doesn't know anything about but claim "Science" that's laughable

    Unlike the rest of the pundits here, like I said, no flu 20 years, I drink beat juice.

    let's face it, aside from a few truly genetic diseases few enough to count on your fingers most illness is the result of diet behavior or environment

    +Nick Hunt I post google search because IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to educate yourself. in a strawman attack I'll reply if you can't figure out how to rotate a gif you're an idiot.

  48. +David Stickney Using "straw man attack" incorrectly, resorting to unintelligent and lazy insults, failing to offer legitimate sources for your information, failing to make believable, intelligent, and compelling arguments while over stuffing your posts with rage filled incoherent keyboard diarrhea that is TL;DR for most people is why you lost the argument a long time ago. It's also why no one takes you or what you say seriously, believes you, or cares about anything you've had to say.

    In short you've made a joke of yourself and your argument. You've made not only yourself but any that agrees with you look uneducated, moronic, and crazy. Why? because you clearly have no idea how to make a proper argument, you simply spout unsubstantiated nonsense and debunked propaganda, and when that fails you resort to petty insults. This is just an honest critique of your argument from an outside observer. You could be 100% right but no one would believe you or care because frankly you don't care and it shows. My advice, learn to make a proper and compelling argument and learn how to properly substantiate it. Or simply keep your opinions and thoughts to yourself because you will continue to lose arguments as you've lost this one and only make a joke of yourself as you've done so far.

  49. +Nick Hunt you seem to think that I am involved in some popularity contest where there are winners and losers. I understand that you really want to troll someone if only for the instant gratification of your self perceived "victory" I on the other hand don't give a crap what you think of me, it has no effect whatsoever. I don't care for the 10 people that didn't read or disregard what I write, if there is only one person who might raise some questions for themselves I'll gain my gratification.

    None of the "Science" loving people here post anything other than speculation, find one qualified person willing the argue the proteome mechanism I described and I'll be happy to chat with him. You however aren't that person.

    if I can carry on belittling you I would suggest you keep to your normal fair of cartoons, ridiculous crap you post thinking nobody else knew and working at J.C. – what's that anyway? stick to your childish interests and refrain from tagging me in the future.

  50. +David Stickney You sure like to make a lot of assumptions, which explains a lot.Then again you have just been fail-trolling this whole time which is both hilarious and sad. I honestly don't believe you are fully able to understand anything to be honest. You clearly do care what people think otherwise you wouldn't bother.

    Perhaps I should be more like you. Maybe be like you and make a fake account and never post anything original or intelligent ever and only ever re-posting other peoples shit-posts. Then dedicating an unhealthy amount of time to circle sharing so when you go trolling people like those in favor of vaccines they think you are legitimate when it's clear from the start that you have no idea what you are talking about and your only purpose is to annoy others. To answer your question J.C. is large software development firm..ya know where actual educated people work. Maybe someday you will have one of your own. Better get an education first. While your at it you should get some actual interests of your own, instead of using other people's interests as your own?

  52. Haha I made millions from software been in r and d for 20 years .. fake account that's rich.. did you at least Google me? It not about vaccination with you so do me a favor and don't tag me anymore

  54. Actually most of the "science" on vaccine efficacy comes from epidemiologists … employed by government at all levels or phd students or competitive corporates. ie epidemiologists who have, if anything, a slight vested interest in being able to show a given vaccine is more harm than good.

  55. +David Stickney Big surprise your go to source is once again "google it" following hilariously obvious bullshit. If you do "google" you you will find nothing but the fact that you are using someone else's name, images, and all your posts are re-posts. There is nothing real or original about you. I find your cartoon profile pic amusing tho. Guess you can throw hypocrite on the list of great qualities of yours.

  56. I think if we all post where we got our PHDs and links to our peer-reviewed studies we ourselves have done for years in this post, we could decide who knows the most about vaccination efficacy.

  59. +David Stickney do you understand that a proteomic analysis and link would most likely indicate a genetic basis for the thing in question? "Proteome" is a catchall for all the proteins that a given DNA makeup produces.

  61. +Joe Grundy precursors in all sorts of metabolism, not just folding to make DNA. Would you inject yourself with a catchall? That's one of the points I made regarding the knowledge of human proteomes, which only fractionally known at the moment. Anyway proteomes can interact with cell receptors and do.

  63. +David Stickney Best I got? I thought you said this wasn't a contest. slung Using the truth is all I need since it can be substantiated. Which is why you've failed so hard so far. You have no truth on your side, which is why you can't substantiate your claims and why it's clear to anyone with any rudimentary knowledge and understanding that you have no idea what you are talking about. Since you more or less just admitted the truth that everything about you is fake and your posts are either reposts or stolen word for word from others it makes it much easier to substantiate it. Not that any admittance is needed since a google search that you are so fond of proves it true.

    Why bring up pooteeny at all? Here I was thinking you were just another angry and uneducated libertarian troll. No one even brought up Putin or Russia for that matter. In psychology that's what's known as a Freudian slip. Now that you mention it tho it makes sense and explains a lot. Normal people have varied interests and their legitimate social media activities aren't one dimensional as yours appear to be. I mean that's all your social media activity consists of, either re-posting or copying word for word and re-purposing and spreading propaganda. Here I thought you were just a troll doing it to mess with people, but now that you slip and mention being paid by the Russian government it makes a lot more sense and is a lot less sad. In fact it's the only thing you've said so far that makes any logical sense and I honestly would have never thought about it until you brought it up. You must get that a lot, or you actually are a paid Russian propagandist who's job is to dissuade Americans from getting vaccines. It also explains why your statements tho hilariously inaccurate come off as scripted or rehearsed. If not then yeesh, you really need to get a hobby, some varied interests, and a proper education. Or at the very least get out more.

    +Newt Jefe +Joe Grundy +Walter Roberson +Jeff Stevens +Brad Tissi +citizen j +Joe Lancaster +Ward A +King Jaffe Joffer What do you think? Could he be paid by the Russian government to spread propaganda on the internet? it makes sense.

  64. Путин платит людям чтобы обсуждали вакцин с американцами.

    Это конечно весело

    Можете ли вы дать мне имя штамма Вы курите?

  67. Письмо, грамматика имеет свои собственные правила. Там нет или голос Ques. Если вы не используете сарказм знак в тексте, вы не используете сарказм. Вместо этого, вы честны. Так что помните, вы просто открыто признал, ваше занятие, говорить неправду в Интернете, ваш работодатель России правительство, и ваша задача весело.

    Thanks for the screen grab of you openly admitting you are a Russian propagandist that is financed by your government. That puts to rest if what ever you have to say should be dismissed or not, and the answer is a resounding Should. Normally simply not denying it would be considered an admission but you just full on admitted it. Before you claim you were being sarcastic, you weren't. You were being honest for the first time this entire discussion. Also for future reference. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-houston-/post_5696_b_3976733.html http://problogservice.com/2011/11/30/using-the-irony-mark-or-sarcasm-mark/ (look +David Stickney Actual sources!)

    +Ward A I guess that means you encountered his brand of propaganda/bullshit before and owned his lying ass and rustled his jimmies pretty thoroughly if he blocked you. Don't blame him tho, it makes his job that much harder when intelligent people continue to point how wrong he is.

  68. On the other hand, if you get HPV or some shit, just drink a lot of water, stop having sex for like 2-3 months, block your baby momma number and you'll be straight. Learned it from the best. Vaccines are for the rich.

  69. wow,… that's pretty desperate. keep it up though… mildly entertaining. I expected some of this, but the Russians are paying me…

    Nice, I suppose you'll tell us Nick Hunt is your real name.

  70. +David Stickney Desperate? Wow yet another word used incorrectly, I know you are Russian but come on that's literally basic English. You brought up the Russian government paying you and then you openly admitted to it when asked. That's not desperation, that is exactly the chain of events. Of course you expected it, you brought it up and admitted to it. Unlike you, I actually do use my real name which is easily provable by a simple google search that you are so fond of but some how still fail at.

  71. +Nick Hunt you should be accurate with your attributions of what someone said.

    Yeah, I block people that keep tagging me after I've made it clear I don't care to talk to them anymore. congratulations, you've joined an elite group of trolls and losers and made it to my block list in a single post. best of the best…

  72. +David Stickney I am being completely accurate about what you said, even got screen shots to prove it. You need to be accurate about what you said which you aren't.

    Outed myself as "running with a troll crowd"? Why because I happened to tag a highly intelligent black man that lives in my state that also works in the tech industry and happens to know allot about vaccines? Talk about desperate. Exactly who is this imaginary "troll" crowd you speak of? Only legitimate troll here is you and that is the real reason why you block people. You go around all day spreading your obvious bullshit and lies and when people call you out for your idiocy and transparent trolling you block them. Check my post history, unlike you I don't troll, but when I find one like you I always set em straight. Also what is #blamephil ?

    Thanks for the screenshots proving what a fraud you are tho.

  75. +David Stickney you pulled a paper from 1993 to claim that no studies have been done. You are aware that 1993 was 22 years ago?
    CDC whistleblower: http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp
    No evidence that the diet actually works. That's why it's not being used.
    +Walter Roberson wasn't using a straw man. It was your exact argument, with some of the words changed. You have provided no evidence that your drug cures cancer and Walter hasn't provided any evidence that his magic elixir prevents dying to falling pianos.

    +James LeClair So instead let's listen to idiots who have no idea what they're talking about.

    +William Tyndale I didn't know Youtube was a scientific publisher.

    +Helen Gilmore or maybe their "research" was listening to celebrities. Any search of the scientific literature would completely invalidate any antivax claims.

  76. +Johnathan Gross paper from 22 years ago? whatever. The Dr. Breuss diet was taken to court 3 times, he in the eyes of the law demonstrated his diet cured cancer. It's legal fact. Period. On the third trial, the president came out with a statement as it was not his place to advise the courts, but the entire 3rd case against him he'd already been cleared of and the 3rd trial was a mockery of the justice system, his third case was dropped.

    mumbo jumbo double blind test bs… Get the recipe, make a liter the next time you feel the flu coming on. it's mostly beet juice, one of the oldest natural cures..

    You claim of no evidence of the Breuss diet is simply untrue.

  79. +David Stickney the court of law is not scientific. Legal fact is not fact. Corporations are people according to the courts. Witnesses are the most reliable evidence in court, but are in reality the least reliable. Need I go on?

    If there is evidence, where is it?

  80. +David Stickney vaccines hit full force here in the states. I am a Russian spy residing in the US at this time, yes. I answer to no one but Putin and he tells me what to brainwash people with over here. I work hand in hand with RT news.

  83. +Johnathan Gross have you read what happened at the trials? certainly it was scientific. inform yourself as to how he got verdict in his favor before making false claims. Same thing with Burzynski by the way,,,

    He found antineoplastons in healthy people's urine, none in people with cancer. He discovered a new component in Urine in the 20th century, it's like finding another planet in our solar system. He developed a means to extract the antineoplastons from urine, gave them to sick people and it cured them.

    They sued him because he made it out of Urine. Mind you, you can buy bull urine in drinks, taurin"

    He was later able to synthesis antineoplastons they seized all his patients records and took him to court again…

    Then they refused him trials to get approval.

    yeah, double blind whatever.

    Burzynski: Cancer Is Serious Business
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQXYXY5GCi4

  87. Really? what are you smoking? there are fantastic scientific resources on youtube. whatever bro, you can join Nick for all I care. someone else will watch the link if they want to make up their own mind.

    what's with the fake accounts, standard shill BS, same lame profiles. blah blah. banned nick this guy shows up right… 🙂

  89. Dude, asking nice, don't tag me. thanks. that's the most ridiculous argument I've heard yet. not a scientific publication… brilliant, who writes your scripts?

  94. +David Stickney
    Have I read what happened at the trial? No. Oddly enough nearly all the material about it that appears to be available about it is a pair of lines phrased exactly that same way. Not even a single reference to a court case name that I can find to verify that he was ever put on trial at all.

    There is an oddity here. When I was looking for information about your claims that gravity is caused by vibration, I got to reading about John Searl and his "levity disks". Apparently at one point he was taken to court for physically interfering with a hydro yard. In his DVD, "The John Searl Story", he makes the claim that he was acquitted by the court and that the judge told John Searl that he was "much more intelligent" than the prosecution. The reality, though, is that John Searl was convicted and sentenced to 15 months in prison. So on one hand we have claims that some controversial figure was put on trial and found not guilty due to his wonderfulness, and on the other hand we have the ability to check into those claims. Or at least we would if we could access a judicial records source rather than just a series of exactly-repeated claims of praise.

  98. +Brad Tissi As for your anesthesia line above, if you give my family your anesthesia we will code. Rigidity, fever, coma, death. What say you to that? We are NOT all the same. There are many many breeds here, say what you will, there may be similarities but all are not the same or equal. Normal IS a statistical number used to aggregate the herd under one clause.

  101. +Michael Butler​ you just described a well informed average that accurately depicts the majority of those included with terms politicians use to incite an emotional response. Ie. "aggregate the herd under one clause". Your bias is overriding your logic

  102. +Brad Tissi Bias? To what does this refer? Truth is, GENETICALLY I, am different, NOT the same as you, so what may be good for you, might ultimately kill me eh? Just because your breed will tolerate an injection of a foreign substance does not mean mine will. My family was advised years ago NOT to vaccinate our children BY Doctors in the field of genetic science due to my family carrying this supposed "genetic defect" on the 19th chromosome. One mans mana is another mans poison.

  103. Yeah but +Michael Butler knowing you have a genetic defect that would cause complications is one thing (to be fair I have no idea what the 19th chromosome thing is but I'll take your word for it), that's NOT why the majority of anti-vaccination people are making the choices they are making. I posted it already but since it fits:

    "In the three largest outbreaks of 2014, which account for over a half of all cases this year, transmission occurred after introduction of measles into communities with pockets of persons who were unvaccinated because of philosophical or religious beliefs." (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6322a4.htm)

    If you cannot get vaccinated based on a legitimate scientific reasons that's an entirely different thing. You could even make the argument that we should genetically test before vaccinating to catch edge case scenarios where it would negatively impact someone. However, that doesn't change the fact that for nearly everyone else vaccination is something that should be done both for the individual and for society as a whole.

  104. The number of generalizations that you're making is sending up yellow flags for me.
    Everyone has some bias, the key for a successful logical debate is to accept it and manage it.

    There are always outliers in the data and that's why the human element should always be the last line before any implementation in medicine, science, and even your town's coupon ads. But if you truly are an anomaly in the data, why do you argue against what's best for the majority?

  105. How many cases of measles were there last year? How many deaths from it? Now, what percentage is that of the United States?
    Now, how many car deaths?
    How many pharmaceutical deaths.
    Call me when they are close in numbers or start your #FearPorn on banning cars and pharmaceuticals.

  106. +Richard Byrd If you are volunteering to change careers to spend enough time to gather all that data, please finish the job and gather all of the data and percentage of lives saved per dollar spent over time so that we can optimally save lives.

    Unfortunately, each organization that each cause of death and possible solution would come from have greatly varying time frames that they are able (if at all) to gather all of this and make a report. So much so that by the time the last one comes in, the first is years out of date.

    Personally, my goal as part of the general public (versus someone who's career it is to gather this data) is to be as educated as I can, discuss it with an open mind with others with the same goal, and make decisions that I have control over that I feel are best based on this.

  108. +Brad Tissi "why do you argue against what's best for the majority? " I have done no such thing. I have no Pro or Con in this fight.
    The only point I have tried to make is that as a species we are actual many breeds, all with variables, and that if you do not know your genetics and what it can handle you are doomed to trial and error with additions to your body. And those errors could mean illness and death for some.

  110. +David Stickney
    You did read http://www.rexresearch.com/searl2/searl3.htm
    "I was Searl's "Superintendent of Documents" for a while in the late 1960s. Here are some rare photos of his attempt to construct a "Levity Disc" in the woods of Sussex in the early 60s. Also shown are photos of a model that he used to generate fake composite photos (with the help of a newspaper photographer) to illustrate some newspaper articles of the period."

    Photographs of an anti-gravity device were faked ?? A creator of an anti-gravity device lied ?? Surely that must be unique in history!

  111. There's no such thing as antigravity, there is only moving the planer of the mass to attraction or repulsion side of the sine- it's off and on all the time, moving to the side where the on is longer is the planar relation of the mass.

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