Firefox tops Microsoft browser market share for first time
Chrome remains king, with over 60% market share.
Chrome remains the king of the web… but for the first time FireFox has even surpassed IE and Edge.
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Great times
Yay for both Chrome and Firefox!
And for users and developers +Daniel Luck
I USED Firefox but it got worse and laggy. Moved to chtome, nice and smmothh
+Patrik Söderström Agreed!
I use Firefox as main browser, then Chrome then the native browser of OS (Edge for Windows and Safari for Mac).
All browsers are now more HTML5 compatible. Yay!
Unfortunately Chrome breaks basic browser functions that you can't even fix with css or Jquery (well, without jumping through 10 hoops). For example, lately listboxes no longer automatically scroll the selected item into view. Why? Google? Hello? Firefox does. Chrome? Nope. It stopped working about, oh, a month ago maybe. Why? Hello? Google? Anything to say on that? Hello?
But still… yup. Good bye IE. I haven't bothered programing for you in several years now. Good riddance. IE is what happens when a monolithic monopoly tries to make common functions and features proprietary in order to lock people into their platform. So for that reason I thank Google Chrome and FireFox. At least they get the Free-Choice and Follow-The-Standards-Stupid thing.
Is my cynicism showing? I'm a web developer. Sorry.
+Vb Wyrde What you're likely running into are sites that implement Web Forms 2.0 or some other aspect that it's "standard" but is currently being merged into HTML 5. Can't really blame Google if it's not yet standardized.
I use Chrome for MOST of what I do. However, if on a lower end pc or something I'll use FireFox… I don't have as many extensions and whatnot so it'll have a significantly lower memory footprint when I need that.
Actually, I'm a web developer by trade. I have a website that uses listboxes. They work fine on Firefox. They fail to work the same way on Chrome. This is a recent phenomenon so I am assuming that there has been a recent update that has screwed them up. I am curious about what you mean, however. I haven't heard that there is an issue with converting between web forms 2.0 and HTML5. I don't suppose you could point me in the right direction to learn more about the issue, if you happen to have a useful link handy. Thanks.
Are you referring to a .NET control? A listbox isn't an actual HTML element. What's commonly referred to as a dropdown (technically a input type of select) is what I'm thinking you're describing but perhaps in .NET it's written as a listbox but emitted to the page as an input element. Here's the W3 spec on input types:
https://www.w3.org/TR/html5/forms.html#the-input-element
You might to check here for a compatibility matrix: http://www.quirksmode.org/
You can see more on forms here: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/forms.html#forms
Yup. asp.net listbox control. It does indeed output to a standard html input control. So as far as the browser is concerned it doesn't care that it's generated from an asp.net server control. It doesn't have any idea about that. But the fact remains… Chrome is not scrolling the selected item into view. Firefox is. That's a fact. So the problem is with Chrome as far as I can tell. I'll be waiting for the problem to vanish again in the same way it appeared. Unannounced. I'm sure Google will get around to fixing it at some point, just as they fixed the last several issues of this kind. In fact, they keep messing up on patches, and fixing them later… unannounced. It seems to have become their modus operandi lately.
Validi's tops for me right now. Blink engine, but much more features and customization. Love it.
In terms of render engine critism; I WANT APNG SUPPORT GOD DARNIT PEOPLE. Its 2016 and we are still frelling using GIFS. Its embarrassing for our species!
Sadly true for me… Firefox started shitting itself on my system about 4 months ago and no amount of reinstalling or removal of my functional extensions would stop it from freezing up. My best guess is that they had an update that caused a memory dump error.
So I switched to chrome and got all the same extensions up and running.
It seems we went from DLL Hell to Browser Hell over the years. Drat.
+Runivis Roan Hmm… That’s interesting. Firefox and Chrome have been performing flawless on Mac, Windows and Linux. Microsoft Edge was buggy at first but seems better lately.
+Vb Wyrde Check this… someone describes what you're talking about (old post but might still be relevant). It requires modifying how you write the backend code for the control but might help your issue.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/492535/how-to-get-first-selected-item-in-an-asplistbox-with-selectionmode-multiple-t
Thanks Paul. Yes, I will try that out. And it could solve my issue. However, I still have the complaint – Chrome randomly and sporatically changes and breaks things and then later mysteriously fixes them again. This causes my users quite a bit of consternation and there appears to be nothing I can do about it. Other than wait, and ask my users to be patient, or switch to FireFox which doesn't seem to have these issues.